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Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by acdha »

mrweasel wrote: post #49
SteveNuts wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part is OP missing?

Maybe the point is that just having the S3 and CDN isn’t enough to move customers. If you’re using AWS, S3 (and Cloudfront) it will just be a tiny part of your infrastructure, why would you move that out of AWS and lose the integration coming from having everything in AWS?

It might be only part of your infrastructure but on many projects it’s a significant fraction of your total expenditure and storage egress is one of the things limiting use of external services. Having a cheap data access option makes it easy to reconsider those choices when you don’t have to factor egress into the cost of trying an alternative.

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by jerf »

austinpena wrote: post #102
mmastrac wrote: post #4

I'm glad the article pointed out Q1 as the next opportunity

I don't think that goes far enough. So I made this https://object-storage-name-generator.com

Reminds me of this old Dilbert cartoon: https://dilbert.com/strip/1998-12-12

"I would have synergized harder, but I got tired of clicking the button!"

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by encryptluks2 »

breakingcups wrote: post #62
DeathArrow wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also Wasabi is worth checking. Free egress cheap prices. https://wasabi.com/cloud-storage-pricing/#three-info

If I recall correctly, that's only good up until the total storage. So if you store, say, 100GB of files total, you only have free egress up until 100GB/month

Exactly... also, they have like a 3 month minimum storage time on a lot of their plans.

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by austinpena »

jerf wrote: post #112
austinpena wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that goes far enough. So I made this https://object-storage-name-generator.com

Reminds me of this old Dilbert cartoon: https://dilbert.com/strip/1998-12-12 "I would have synergized harder, but I got tired of clicking the button!"

Haha! I need to work on my Start-Up slang if a Dilbert beat me to the punch by ~23 years

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by 5faulker »

marcc wrote: post #23

IMO, the best feature Cloudflare added to R2 was the automatic migration. This makes sense for a CDN to offer, but if R2 works, this makes it pretty simple to migrate. "After specifying an existing storage bucket, R2 will serve requests for objects from the existing bucket," I've Beene evaluating R2, but this migration path makes it dead simple to use. I just point my code to read/write from/to R2 instead of S3, and…

I like Cloudflare for its CDN, but considering its competitors and migration effort I think that only time will tell.

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by politician »

greg-m wrote: post #98
jacurtis wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to their press release it says: > That's why Cloudflare plans to eliminate egress fees, deliver object storage that is at least 10% cheaper than S3, and make infrequent access completely free for customers A few elements of concern. It says they "plan to", so we don't know if this is near term or some moonshot type of goal. It also states earlier in the press release that the free egress frees are offered v…

Hey, R2 PM here - there's no question that the product will have 0 egress charges, regardless of destination. For archival use-cases, you do still pay us for data storage. We're referring to not charging for operations for infrequent access - we'll likely drop the stored data charge down too, eventually, but the current pricing is complex enough.

Hey Greg, I was just talking to Sales about R2 yesterday, and they said that it was not live yet. Can you clarify availability?

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by outworlder »

mrweasel wrote: post #49
SteveNuts wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part is OP missing?

Maybe the point is that just having the S3 and CDN isn’t enough to move customers. If you’re using AWS, S3 (and Cloudfront) it will just be a tiny part of your infrastructure, why would you move that out of AWS and lose the integration coming from having everything in AWS?

There are many applications that have no dependency on AWS at all, other than S3. This is one of the reasons projects like Minio exist.

If you don't care and just need some blob storage, this could be great.

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by bbu »

nemothekid wrote: post #99
jacurtis wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to their press release it says: > That's why Cloudflare plans to eliminate egress fees, deliver object storage that is at least 10% cheaper than S3, and make infrequent access completely free for customers A few elements of concern. It says they "plan to", so we don't know if this is near term or some moonshot type of goal. It also states earlier in the press release that the free egress frees are offered v…

> While it is noteworthy that GCP (Google Cloud Provider) and Microsoft Azure are part of this alliance, AWS is not! So does this mean that egress fees will be charged if an AWS server requests the file? The bandwidth alliance means when Cloudflare requests a file from GCP, GCP won't charge you egress. Cloudflare will then deliver your file to your customer for free.

small correction: gcp will still charge you but at a reduced rate.

Re: Will Cloudflare R2 Win Customers from Amazon S3?

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Post by CameronNemo »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #107
greg-m wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, R2 PM here - there's no question that the product will have 0 egress charges, regardless of destination. For archival use-cases, you do still pay us for data storage. We're referring to not charging for operations for infrequent access - we'll likely drop the stored data charge down too, eventually, but the current pricing is complex enough.

Thanks! R2 coming out with $0 egress is somewhere between unbelievable and literal-miracle. I suppose my only skepticism is "but how fast can I egress?" -- if the bandwidth is 100x slower than GCP, it might dampen my enthusiasm a little bit. But honestly I'd still take a 100x slowdown if it means I can do long term archival without paying $200 just to download the data, soooo.... Anyway, cheers, and thanks for doing…

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