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Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by thaumasiotes »

chrismorgan wrote: post #58
ravenstine wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, why do you think it should have been killed off in favor of Atom? Do you mean in the sense of the terminology, or is there something inferior about RSS? Perhaps both should be killed off in favor of a JSON-based format.

Refer to my earlier comments: Atom is technically superior and more sound, and calling them all “RSS” is harmful by encouraging the inferior. JSON stuff? Eh, I feel that’s largely a solution looking for a problem. It’s too late to get universal support in clients (feeds aren’t popular enough and too much of the software basically on life support), so you’re always going to need to serve Atom or RSS as well, and once…

> calling them all “RSS” is harmful by encouraging the inferior.

Where did this come from? You refer to an atom feed as RSS, someone decides to add RSS to their site, and they implement atom because that's how you do RSS. What's the problem?

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by gaius_baltar »

throw0101a wrote: post #40
sys_64738 wrote: post #37

Twitter is especially good for RSS as you can see almost all 140 chars in a single line and see all the recents tweets for the twitter account. I've no interest in comments in twitter. With Reddit you can subscribe to RSS feeds of subreddits and see the new topics. Click through to reddit if you want to engage. It has its uses and frankly it's my method for info consumption. If something doesn't have an RSS interface…

> Twitter is especially good for RSS as you can see almost all 140 chars in a single line and see all the recents tweets for the twitter account. Twitter used to have RSS (Atom?) until March 2013.

Any suggestion for a good HTML scraper that generates RSS feeds from Twitter profiles without relying in the API or third-party services?

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by torstenvl »

I've thought about how RSS and social media relate to each other a lot. Social media works off the "feed" paradigm pretty explicitly (News Feed, Twitter feed, etc.).

I've thought about how to implement an open-standards social media site. Maybe with a feed server (FastCGI or otherwise) that takes authentication tokens in the request header or URL (over HTTPS only obviously), and - if the token is linked to a valid "friend" or "following" relationship, returns an RSS feed of the person's recent posts.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by torstenvl »

woodruffw wrote: post #81
jsilence wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does not seem to be a complete mindless dummy. Ever tried to contact and argue with him? I'd honestly watch that. Same thing with Jordan Peterson. I must not agree with his stand points and positions, but his arguments are compelling at times and it is fun watching and following his stuff. I can only broaden my view if don't look into the same direction all the time.

Both Peterson and Smith’s content falls squarely into the tarpit of bullshit asymmetry: anything that they chose to mouth off on takes an asymmetrically large amount of effort to rebut. That’s not how I’d prefer to spend my time, and it’s not something I can reasonably ask any person to do.

> takes an asymmetrically large amount of effort to rebut

And so... you'd rather just badmouth him on HN instead? This entire subthread is an ad hominem, and entirely inappropriate.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by woodruffw »

torstenvl wrote: post #114
woodruffw wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Peterson and Smith’s content falls squarely into the tarpit of bullshit asymmetry: anything that they chose to mouth off on takes an asymmetrically large amount of effort to rebut. That’s not how I’d prefer to spend my time, and it’s not something I can reasonably ask any person to do.

> takes an asymmetrically large amount of effort to rebut And so... you'd rather just badmouth him on HN instead? This entire subthread is an ad hominem, and entirely inappropriate.

> And so... you'd rather just badmouth him on HN instead?

Where's the badmouthing? His reactionary politics are a critical part of the personal brand that he uses to advance his (again, incredibly mundane and well-trodden) content.

And guess what: I agree that it's inappropriate for HN. All things being equal, I'd prefer not to spend even the limited time I've spent today thinking about this. But for as long as reactionaries continue to use HN to launder their reputations, I'll continue to be the annoying commenter who points them out. I'm sorry if you think that's inappropriate.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by chrismorgan »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #111
chrismorgan wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refer to my earlier comments: Atom is technically superior and more sound, and calling them all “RSS” is harmful by encouraging the inferior. JSON stuff? Eh, I feel that’s largely a solution looking for a problem. It’s too late to get universal support in clients (feeds aren’t popular enough and too much of the software basically on life support), so you’re always going to need to serve Atom or RSS as well, and once…

> calling them all “RSS” is harmful by encouraging the inferior. Where did this come from? You refer to an atom feed as RSS, someone decides to add RSS to their site, and they implement atom because that's how you do RSS. What's the problem?

> they implement atom because that's how you do RSS

No, they implement RSS because that’s all they’ve heard of.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by fdgdd »

dharmaturtle wrote: post #92
sys_64738 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The RSS service I use has a Twitter gateway which does translation. It works really nice.

What RSS service you're using? I'm in the market.

Nitter (https://github.com/zedeus/nitter) provides RSS for Twitter.

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by jamietanna »

est wrote: post #13

Twitter with an RSS feed is a waste of crawling traffic. Suppose you follow 1k accounts, you have to subscribe 1k RSS. What a waste. Twitter's core functionality was based on how to aggregate all 1k updates into one feed.

There's a tool built by friends in the IndieWeb community called https://granary.io that allows you to produce a single RSS feed for lots of handy things - like your full feed, specific lists, or specific people!

Re: Using RSS to replace social media

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Post by birksherty »

ravenstine wrote: post #60
Quillbert182 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube itself does have that same option under the subscriptions tab, it will only show videos from your subscriptions in chronological order.

That is true, except YouTube doesn't always show you all your subscription content. In fact it frequently hides subscribed content from me, including live streams, even when I set the bell-icon to "All". The difference between the subscriptions tab on YouTube and NewPipe is that the latter literally scans every subscribed channel for uploaded content, so I have yet to find out that I've ever missed something through…

Not sure about YT app which I don't use, but on desktop browser it does show all including live streams from subscribed channels, at least for me.
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