My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. I used to do iss that idea somewhat but as I've paid more attention to things over th last few years, I no longer dismiss the notion. I don't wish many people dead but if women and minorities start buying up a lot of guns, maybe they'll start shooting back. Then we'll see how many times the same people who've thumped their chests about dying to protect the 2nd amendment in the face of regular mass shootings feel. Having a fun pointed at you tends to shift your priorities, as I've unfortunately had the opportunity to to learn.
Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds
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#112My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. I used to do iss that idea somewhat but as I've paid more attention to things over th last few years, I no longer dismiss the notion. I don't wish many people dead but if women and minorities start buying up a lot of guns, maybe they'll start shooting back. Then we'll see how many times th…
You've payed no attention whatsoever to US gun culture 2.0, we welcome women and minorities with open arms, and women were always welcome, every heard of Annie Oakley?? Seen the NRA celebrating on the front page of their membership magazine women who won all gender national championships?
You completely misunderstand our motivations for keeping and bearing arms, and thus your hope is doomed to not come true.
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#113There's something admirable about the idea that a government would not take away all the guns. The idea that people should not have to give up all of their ability to fight. The idea that people should not be entirely dependent on police for their defense. And the idea that physically weaker people (often women) can defend themselves against the strong. Does this idea work? Surprisingly well. If you had to guess the…
> But the U.S. murder rate is not all that remarkable, really The US is at 4.96/100,000 for 2012. For reference, Angola is better at 4.85. Bulgaria and Romania, the poorest countries in the EU, are at 1.3. France is at 1.2. If by not remarkable you mean 3 as bad as other developed countries, sure. The numbers are only for intentional homicide, not even counting accidents and suicides which are also made worse by the…
A rational person compares risks on an absolute scale first. Out of all the things that could happen on a given day, is getting murdered a real concern? For people in the U.S., it's not really worth worrying about unless you have some other risk factors for murder, like criminal activity.
If you are selling lion repellant that makes a lion attack 80% less likely, that's not something I'd be interested in.
That being said, it's great that some countries have driven a small risk down to oblivion. Not sure that firearm laws have much to do with that, though. Probably more to do with policing structure.
Re: Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds
#114My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. I used to do iss that idea somewhat but as I've paid more attention to things over th last few years, I no longer dismiss the notion. I don't wish many people dead but if women and minorities start buying up a lot of guns, maybe they'll start shooting back. Then we'll see how many times th…
> My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets.
That's literally a joke. I heard it on a Dave Chappelle special.
IIRC, actual gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns, because they're about gun rights and realize they're better secured if their constituency is larger.
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#115The entire police force can do nothing for you on the phone. I think it is the reductions in police that are convincing more women to purchase.
It's not just that police forces have been reduced. In some major cities police abandoned certain areas to anarchy. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53218448
I believe also the police have no duty to respond based on a court ruling. Basically the entity we are supposed to rely on in the worst situations has no SLA and we have no recourse if they don't come and help.
Re: Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds
#116My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. I used to do iss that idea somewhat but as I've paid more attention to things over th last few years, I no longer dismiss the notion. I don't wish many people dead but if women and minorities start buying up a lot of guns, maybe they'll start shooting back. Then we'll see how many times th…
> My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. That's literally a joke. I heard it on a Dave Chappelle special. IIRC, actual gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns, because they're about gun rights and realize they're better secured if their constituency is larger.
> IIRC, gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. That's literally a joke. I heard it on a Dave Chappelle special. IIRC, actual gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns, because they're about gun rights and realize they're better secured if their constituency is larger.
> IIRC, gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns. Whoops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
If the best you can come up with is a ten years prior to the Cincinnati Revolt five decades old law, you've got nothing.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not just that police forces have been reduced. In some major cities police abandoned certain areas to anarchy. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53218448
I believe also the police have no duty to respond based on a court ruling. Basically the entity we are supposed to rely on in the worst situations has no SLA and we have no recourse if they don't come and help.
Multiple court rulings, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia is the first major one.
Re: Women are nearly half of new gun buyers, study finds
#119The entire police force can do nothing for you on the phone. I think it is the reductions in police that are convincing more women to purchase.
It's not just that police forces have been reduced. In some major cities police abandoned certain areas to anarchy. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53218448
I live in the PNW, I've been to the area. If spray paint on a police building is lawless anarchy, alright, I guess, but my best friends girlfriend works literally across the street from the police station depicted, and you know what? It's fine. These stories are bullshit meant to rile you up because fear gets clicks.
Some folks have a different opinion, but these folks seem to be afraid anytime they see a houseless person, or a needle in an alley way, and neither of those problems have been solved with the ever increasing police budgets, just pushed it to a slightly different area, where the outrage starts all over again. There's a problem, sure, but the police ain't the tool to solve them, no matter how much we would like for complex problems to be solved with simple solutions.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
> My wife (and many women) has felt that the only way to effect change in our gun laws would be for white men to feel like targets. That's literally a joke. I heard it on a Dave Chappelle special. IIRC, actual gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns, because they're about gun rights and realize they're better secured if their constituency is larger.
> IIRC, gun rights groups like the NRA want black people and women to buy guns. Whoops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
> Whoops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
So? That was in 1967. Do you think nothing has changed since then? IIRC, I don't even think the NRA was even much of a gun rights organization until later.
You need to work on your gotcha skills.
Look at this:
Here's the featured video on the (now defunct) NRATV youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84A_fRQfTAE
tl;dr: black guy criticizing Biden for gun control and stuff like his previous opposition to school busing.
An for completeness, this looks like a channel they had for women: https://www.youtube.com/user/nrawomen