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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by xythobuz »

krapp wrote: post #103
em-bee wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

our freezer does that, every time after you open it, it somehow reduces the pressure (maybe it tries to suck out the warm air) making the door hard to open.

I'm pretty sure that's just done with electromagnets.

that's really just physics. warm air gets in through the opened door, after closing it rapidly cools down, because air does not hold that much heat energy. Because it cools it contracts, which reduces the pressure inside the freezer, causing the outside air pressure to hold the door shut more firmly.

No electromagnets or anything.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by defaultname »

dTal wrote: post #53

The problem here isn't that the fridge is tracking door opens. That seems like a good application for a "smart" appliance - tracking how usage patterns affect its internal state and holding a dialogue with the user. The problem is that it used email , which comes across as passive aggressive in the same way it would if a human did it. If it just showed a notification on a screen, I don't think we'd be having this dis…

The fridge emailed basically a performance report to the address that he configured on setup. One of the performance report items is that it had been opened a lot, which does impact efficiency and food longevity.

It didn't email a complaint. It did precisely what he configured it to do (I will go on a limb and presume the fridge didn't guess his email address), and presumably what he expected it to do given that he paid a large premium for a "smart" fridge.

There is no problem here beyond that often Twitter makes everyone a comedian/performance artist and people often take their routines a little too seriously.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by rsynnott »

adriand wrote: post #60
shellfishgene wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some cars in arab countries have a feature where the "travel prayer" is recited via the speakers upon starting the car. It takes about one minute [1]. Fortunately our company car hat a button to turn the feature off. Of course we always turned it back on to annoy the next (non-muslim western) car user. Saudi airlines also plays the prayer (or used to?), however by someone with a really deep voice and with cave-like r…

That is very funny but speaking in practical terms, and not about UX, how does a feature like this work in practice? Does Allah respond to prayers emitted by electronics? Or is the idea that the human is supposed to recite the prayer along with the recording?

Well, there's precedent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer_wheel

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by tov247 »

xaedes wrote: post #67

In Battlestar Galactica humanity's last defense was this big "dumb" battlestar spaceship with sparsly connected systems. Sometimes it feels like the internet (of things) is the breeding ground of the Cylons in our world.

This is the approach I have to computers controlling things in my home, it's fine if they are computers, but I don't want them connected.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by prepend »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #70
adriand wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is very funny but speaking in practical terms, and not about UX, how does a feature like this work in practice? Does Allah respond to prayers emitted by electronics? Or is the idea that the human is supposed to recite the prayer along with the recording?

I have the same odd question about listening to contemporary Christian radio stations - does one become holier when the music is playing instead of the top 40 pop station?

I expect it makes people happier to listen to music they enjoy. So the same as someone listening to classical stations, or country, or whatever.

Maybe people enjoy hearing prayer radios. I spent time in Nepal and people would listen to recorded meditations and chants. But I didn’t hear them on the radio, it was recorded on phones and iPods and stuff.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by vladvasiliu »

option_greek wrote: post #90
saurik wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you just tap anywhere without pressing the play button all of that UI goes away and you get back to the pure video, just paused...

It comes back after a few seconds. For this to work, you have to constantly be moving your mouse around. Prime on the other hand lets you pause, read and even know about the person in frame and trivia about the movie or tv series being played. They don't have much content but they are way better than Netflix in Ux.

I was going to say the same about Prime, but it's not perfect either.

Their Windows app is terrible. It takes forever to start for some reason. Sometimes, after a few minutes, I just give up and launch the browser. Sometimes if I try to get back 10 seconds it will just freeze playback. I can sometimes get it back by trying to fast-forward around. Others I have to stop watching and start again.

This never happens on the web app.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by mannykannot »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #70
adriand wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is very funny but speaking in practical terms, and not about UX, how does a feature like this work in practice? Does Allah respond to prayers emitted by electronics? Or is the idea that the human is supposed to recite the prayer along with the recording?

I have the same odd question about listening to contemporary Christian radio stations - does one become holier when the music is playing instead of the top 40 pop station?

For some, maybe just holier-than-thou - but then, so too can highbrow art.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by b112 »

matsemann wrote: post #20
teekert wrote: post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

Ah, I get the same urge using Google Maps on my phone. Want to reach through the screen and slap the developers. So slow, so many key presses. So often it changes something up so I have to re-learn. So often it makes wild guesses that are completely off what I'm actually trying to achieve. Have to press back button a hundred times to get out of whatever it's showing me, whops one too many, app is now closed, have to…

Organic Maps isn't as full featured, but so far, works well for directions here.

Also works 100% offline, after downloading maps.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by SN76477 »

dTal wrote: post #53

The problem here isn't that the fridge is tracking door opens. That seems like a good application for a "smart" appliance - tracking how usage patterns affect its internal state and holding a dialogue with the user. The problem is that it used email , which comes across as passive aggressive in the same way it would if a human did it. If it just showed a notification on a screen, I don't think we'd be having this dis…

>it's time we started holding them to similar standards of behavior to humans.

I have observed in my own behavior that I damn near refuse to "say" why I am calling to an automated system while I am happy to ask Siri for a kitchen timer.

Siri has a personality and the customer service automated line does not. It's like talking to a wall and it feels condescending.

Once you make a device human like, it seems that a new realm of possibilities opens up.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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Post by vladvasiliu »

soco wrote: post #6
teekert wrote: post #2

It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

They definitely don't, the entire consumer electronics is a huge practical joke on its users. It's not only smart devices - even the induction stove with the integrated touch buttons beeping loudly at you and shutting off every time you breathe around them. And I could go on...

Oh man, I absolutely hate the touch buttons on my stove. A simple action like turning the heat up or down takes 2 actions and five minutes – you have to touch for a duration before the action registers.
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