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Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by throwtheacctawy »

userbinator wrote: post #84
meibo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.

I really wish people would stop using the word "modern" in marketing rhetoric as if it was a good thing, because more often than not they're using it and other buzzwords because they don't have any better compelling reasons to convince you to use their product. No, I do not care that the newer version is more "modern", "stylish", "sleek", "clean", or any other number of useless buzzwordy adjectives. Tell me concretel…

Do you ever get the feeling that advancement of technology is tied to two things?

- Ad-Tech

- Adult pornography consumption

We’re not doing anything but creating a more seamless experience for the “thing” we interact with to send an API call for every keystroke, click, or tap.

Maybe honesty or performance doesn’t sell anymore; “We dumped all this crappy poorly performing JavaScript components, spent 3 months addressing tech debt, and things are generally faster - using 38% less memory, and rendering HTML 13% faster”. Now the message is; “can you just buy a newer processor and make sure you don’t use our operating system with less than 16gb of ram and an SSD?”

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by eloisius »

nonbirithm wrote: post #78
meibo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's such a shame too. Windows 10 is a great modern OS that everyone expected to last and be built upon, but they just had to go and push out a new "modernized" version and fill it up with ads. I wonder what you pay to be in the Windows 10 Pro start menu and if it's really worth selling out their professional userbase.

Perhaps there's a version of Moore's Law concerning the amount of innovation left at the OS level, and we're only starting to run out of it just now. What legitimately useful features can we expect out of the release of iOS five major versions down the line? Will there be any new features that change the status quo, and that we'd be practically unable to live without? The significant features like the app store and m…

I get so sick of Apple reshuffling their interface around just to make it "new" and "modern" every major release that I can almost seriously see myself using Serenity OS as a daily driver one day. I have no idea what's going on over there, but it's like they adopted all the worst design trends from web (things changing on hover, hamburger menus hiding everything to look "clean") to pulled it into macOS.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by errantspark »

windex wrote: post #108

What ever happened to simple, light weight, free standing OSes? Why does everything have to be networked, with "like share subscribe" buttons, bundled with crap and always online?

It's profitable to do so. If I had to point a finger it is because individuals (and companies, made up of individuals) do not take responsibility for their part in supporting institutions that corrode the commons for personal gain.

If you work for a place that is largely just about shuffling money to yourself by exploiting info asymmetry sabotage it or quit. You most likely have a skillset that can earn you a living wage somewhere that's a net positive for society.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by dboreham »

bombcar wrote: post #83
8note wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not convinced that's a thing they can do. Too many settings are in 3p apps

Yeah but Windows itself has two control panels for its own settings, no 3P installed at all. Left over from the half-hearted touch Renaissance.

I think this has changed in 11.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by washadjeffmad »

errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

Not being glib, but have you ever tried just getting rid of your laptop, smartphone, internet, TV, etc?

They certainly add the occasional convenience, but it's actually really easy to go a week or three at a time without any of it.

That's always an option, and it's a fairly good one if it's making you feel how you describe.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by branon »

errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

Which linux phone?

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by pixl97 »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #115
errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

Not being glib, but have you ever tried just getting rid of your laptop, smartphone, internet, TV, etc? They certainly add the occasional convenience, but it's actually really easy to go a week or three at a time without any of it. That's always an option, and it's a fairly good one if it's making you feel how you describe.

Getting rid of my laptop and internet for a few weeks and I expect to make a living how?

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by nixpulvis »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #115
errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

Not being glib, but have you ever tried just getting rid of your laptop, smartphone, internet, TV, etc? They certainly add the occasional convenience, but it's actually really easy to go a week or three at a time without any of it. That's always an option, and it's a fairly good one if it's making you feel how you describe.

Um, oh how I've dreamt of this reality... despite all the problems they have caused, computers are just too damn useful to give up on. We just need to learn to control the larger system that produces them better.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by nixpulvis »

pixl97 wrote: post #117
washadjeffmad wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being glib, but have you ever tried just getting rid of your laptop, smartphone, internet, TV, etc? They certainly add the occasional convenience, but it's actually really easy to go a week or three at a time without any of it. That's always an option, and it's a fairly good one if it's making you feel how you describe.

Getting rid of my laptop and internet for a few weeks and I expect to make a living how?

This is part of the problem. People feel trapped in their ecosystems. Despite the value added, the technology is suffocating a lot of people (think broader than just "Tech Workers" too).

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by nixpulvis »

whalesalad wrote: post #14

This is the achilles heel of Microsoft. They will cannibalize a successful part of their business in order to subsidize/bootstrap/launch or even straight-up force the adoption of new service. Every Windows release gets progressively worse when it comes to Microsoft's integrated services and how obtrusive they are. The cherry on top is the fact that Windows 10 Pro is $199 and yet you'll still feel like you are flying…

But who else will save us from the tyrannical Apple cultists!?
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