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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #6

I'm paying Spotify Premium and still have to listen ads during the show. Spotify also sends video even though I just need the audio. It's a waste of valuable bandwidth and CPU. If there would an alternative I would take it. Anyway I have definitely listened JRE way less lately...

The guys who rip it to YouTube cut out the commercials, and NewPipe delivers the audio feed ad free. I'm not a big Rogan guy but even if I paid for Spotify I'd probably watch it that way.

Is there some reliable source of his podcasts on Youtube? Like a hidden channel or something that won't be taken down by copyright requests every 5 seconds?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#113
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That implies constant growth is the only measurable metric. Probably it is for Spotify, maybe for Rogan, but it doesn't have to be.

No, it asks for any specific example of how one might suggest he is doing "just fine". I would just like to see why someone thinks this article is incorrect, not simply that they think so. I would be fine with someone suggesting an alternative to constant growth as an example.

i think making $100 million could definitely be considered on the high side of doing "just fine"

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#114
post #74

8m not sure how his podcasts were distributed previously, but I would have thought a more multiplatform approach would work better long term. A lot of people don't have Spotify, I'm one of those, for the same price as Spotify I can get YouTube premium for me and the extended family, kill all ads, allow downloads and access to a decent music streaming catalog. Last time I checked the prices were not to dissimilar.

I think he was promised $100m for the Spotify exclusivity. No multiplatform works better than $100m ;)

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #76
post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I don't think that's accurate. Do you have some links or anything to back that up? Like actual transcripts, not some media interpretation. "People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said on the podcast. "But if you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no. Are you healthy? Are you…

Yes.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#116
post #13
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you fell into a trap like this for 100.000.000$?

Apparently he made $30M in the year before the deal. If the deal lasts for more than 2 years, then he has made a serious error.

That assumes that his podcast had at least 3 years of legs, which is not at all clear to me.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #76
post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I don't think that's accurate. Do you have some links or anything to back that up? Like actual transcripts, not some media interpretation. "People say, do you think it's safe to get vaccinated? I've said, yeah, I think for the most part it's safe to get vaccinated. I do. I do," Rogan said on the podcast. "But if you're like 21 years old, and you say to me, should I get vaccinated? I'll go no. Are you healthy? Are you…

> should I get vaccinated? I'll go no.

Yes that's anti-vax. We get vaccinated not just to protect ourselves from death, but also to protect those around us by reducing the transmission of disease.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#118
post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I suggest you read the book "Virus Mania" for a more skeptical look on epidemics, masks and vaccines.

That book is as far from "skeptical" as you can get. Denying the very existence of viruses is not skeptical, it's credulity.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#119
post #79

I wonder if Rogan would 'not lose influence' had he changed nothing. Feels like these kind of personalities, while they can have long careers, growth / reach isn't infinite or sustainable.

I listened to Joe a lot when I was doing manual labor in 2013-2014ish. Like almost every single episode. I was always able to intake the things I thought were interesting and laugh off stuff I thought was dumb or unconvincing, but I do remember thinking that one day the greater internet will realize that his podcast is littered with content that people could easily misconstrue and start a real uproar about with sufficient motivation. Based on this, I think people shining a light on some of the dumber things that a self proclaimed dumb guy says while recording himself talking for 10 hours a week, and becoming a bit of an internet meme in the process was inevitable - and that's before he started saying whatever the hell he's been saying about vaccines and masks.
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