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Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Signal has been adding lots of silly social media like features lately, not surprising that they are messing up the core value prop. I’m shopping for a new encrypted messenger. They used to say every program expands in scope until it can read email, now every app expands until you can add Snapchat filters to your selfies.

Threema seems great so far. Not many users though, sadly. Element (matrix.org) is good as well, but it's not polished and lacks users as well.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Which this bug was left open for months while users were experiencing this privacy issue. How can I recommend a chat app that does this and claim they are a privacy based app? and also does not respond to urgent bugs in this manner?

The bug wasn't open for months, the dev just forgot to close it and he's in the thread.

He forgot to close it 10 days ago.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Signal has been adding lots of silly social media like features lately, not surprising that they are messing up the core value prop. I’m shopping for a new encrypted messenger. They used to say every program expands in scope until it can read email, now every app expands until you can add Snapchat filters to your selfies.

I use delta-chat (chat over imap) and it’s fantastic. Decentralized / federated e2e chat, running on the Internet’s most well-known, resilient, universally supported, self-hostable infrastructure: email.

I really like the idea of delta chat, except that I cannot bring myself to allow it access to my full imap mailbox. And most providers do not offer a way to scope access to only selected folders.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Hi there, Signal-Android developer here. I updated the issue to reflect this, but this bug has been fixed. I was tracking it on a separate issue, and had forgotten to close this one. We do, in fact, take issues like this very seriously. This bug was extraordinarily rare, and because we have no metrics/remote log collection, there was an initial period where we had to spend time adding logging and collecting user-subm…

> This bug was extraordinarily rare, and because we have no metrics/remote log collection, there was an initial period where we had to spend time adding logging and collecting user-submitted logs to try to track it down. Without telemetry, can you actually back up the claim that this issue was extremely rare?

If you know the reproduction steps and you can look at the code, you should be able to make an estimate of rarity.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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I don't think Signal has many devs[0] and if you look at the contributors[1] you can see that Grayson is pretty much the only dev for the Android app. So seeing a second dev get involved is probably them freaking out. [0] Personally I believe this is a big bump in the road for Signal and is why a lot of people are frustrated. About promises about things like usernames (it is no longer early 2021), channels, and every…

I mean, they invested a year into covert development of a crypto wallet inside Signal. Maybe that time could have been spent better.

From the commits I only really saw Moxie adding this and he hasn't been doing as much dev work in the last few years. So I don't feel that this took much away. It's hard to tell if it is a good move or not since Telegram and WA are both adding payments to their platforms and there is a need for feature parity. But regardless, MOB probably wasn't a good fit and we've seen no update since.

My complaint is more than Signal moves far too slow. I'm not saying to move fast and break things, that's far from what I want. But I am saying maybe add a few more devs.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Bug report is eight months old now. I don't think they're freaking out much.

But the issue is fixed. Forgetting to close a bug report is different than not fixing the bug

True, but the issue was fixed in 5.17, which was released only 10 days ago [1]. For an issue opened December last year, that's still quite a lot of time before a fix could be found.

[1] https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Android/commit/a47448b6c...

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Quill? Why would we want to use Quill that needs all of our private data? Have you not seen over at Apple App Store what they’re sucking off of your phone from your Quill app?

Which is why I said at worst . Please read. Could you recommend a better chat app that is user friendly enough for regular people to use that is not Signal or WhatsApp and is cross platform? Quill are at least working on E2E, not introducing a cryptocurrency like Signal and don't require your phone number.

That is idiotic. It's strictly, objectively worse than Signal and not even acceptable in the worst case.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Hi there, Signal-Android developer here. I updated the issue to reflect this, but this bug has been fixed. I was tracking it on a separate issue, and had forgotten to close this one. We do, in fact, take issues like this very seriously. This bug was extraordinarily rare, and because we have no metrics/remote log collection, there was an initial period where we had to spend time adding logging and collecting user-subm…

> This bug was extraordinarily rare, and because we have no metrics/remote log collection, there was an initial period where we had to spend time adding logging and collecting user-submitted logs to try to track it down. Without telemetry, can you actually back up the claim that this issue was extremely rare?

Even with telemetry, would you be able to back up the claim that that the issue was rare? All too often, people add telemetry to something in an attempt to try to find things like this, but they end up leaking things elsewhere and not accounting for them. Bad statistics are more dangerous than no statistics, and all that.

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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Signal has been adding lots of silly social media like features lately, not surprising that they are messing up the core value prop. I’m shopping for a new encrypted messenger. They used to say every program expands in scope until it can read email, now every app expands until you can add Snapchat filters to your selfies.

It’s not enough for signal to work for tech people. You have to be able to convince your family and friends to use it, it’s a network effects problem. They are adding features so that ordinary people can have private communications

If that's the case, why did they remove SMS import?

It used to be "just install that, you will be more secure and won't notice the difference". To "you will lose all your messages".

Re: Signal on Android: Images sent to wrong contacts

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While I suppose the protocol is not at fault and it's a UI and client bug it's still a huge problem. Just today I was thinking ”it's been weeks since they moved the GIF button to a different place but there's still the old button at the old place and when you click on it there's a pop-up "wrong, the button is somewhere else now"”. Why even keep the old button in the old place ? And it led me to thinking "what else co…

> Just today I was thinking ”it's been weeks since they moved the GIF button to a different place but there's still the old button at the old place and when you click on it there's a pop-up "wrong, the button is somewhere else now"”. That's actually a UX FEATURE. Google Maps did exactly the same thing when they reorganized and move the toggle between maps/satelite/traffic layers. The answer is pretty straightforward:…

It has certainly not trained me to reach for the new way since it was introduced considering I strangely still reach for the usual and visible old way every time despite being treated with "lol, no". But I may be the exception.
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