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Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by forkLding » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 7:30 PM UTC

dcow wrote: post #59

jasode wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading. Sure, for a minority of consumers like yourself. However, for most people that make up the mass audience... they do not like to read long-form text whether it is articles in Vanity Fair, The Atlantic or books. Yes, people would rather read the text of a temperature and weather forecast on their smartphone -- instead of listen to a long-winded presentati…

So how does clubhouse change the game? We already have youtube and podcasts. You can listen to Joe Rogan over bluetooth in your car. You can even ask Siri to play it. What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators monetize their content? Why would I go to clubhouse instead of patreon for the type of content you describe? Not a…

From what I can see, podcasts vs Clubhouse is a bit like Youtube (without streaming) vs Twitch. One is more spontaneous and interactive whereas the other is consuming content.

I'm guessing it's the sense that users get to participate as well (probably more than a normal stream or Twitch stream) which interests people, the value proposition is being able to contribute to a Joe Rogan podcast as a roundtable discussion instead of just listening to it.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by wdr1 » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 8:17 PM UTC

I used Clubhouse for a bit, but I didn't really care for it. It came across as a smug version of AM talk radio.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by Ecstatify » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

cainxinth wrote: post #62

Galloway and Swisher pegged Clubhouse correctly months ago on their podcast, saying it’s a feature not a platform. All the actual platforms are just cloning it.

If Galloway is bearish on Clubhouse, I’m now bullish on it even though I uninstalled the app. The next Facebook!

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by xg15 » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:00 PM UTC

Never was invited, but for some reason the app was heavily promoted in germany for a time. For some period of weeks during the pandemic, all kinds of already well-known public figures were announcing moderated clubhouse discussions.

That made the app feel like a platform for audio-only panel discussions or TED talks. Interesting, but even if someone had invited me, it would have never occurred to me to create a room myself or interact anymore than you'd interact with the panelists at a conference.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by habitue » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #99

This was fairly predictable. There's a good thread by Shaan Puri about how it would all go down that I found amusing: https://twitter.com/ShaanVP/status/1371972261004070913

This was a long thread but it was very entertaining. Read like an episode of Silicon Valley.

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Post by alienthrowaway » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 10:18 PM UTC

ugjka wrote: post #23

mordymoop wrote: post #10

The thing that you notice almost immediately is that the vast majority of people suck at the medium of Clubhouse. It’s like scrolling through an endless list of the worst podcasts in the world.

Dumbassery regarding being IOS only and invite only resulted me never trying it and I no longer care to try it, the hype is over

In my part of the (3rd) world, people on Twitter(!) would boast of being in erudite and sophisticated Clubhouse rooms while speaking down their noses at Android peasantry[1], most times in good nature. Since twitter launched spaces, that's all I hear about - I don't recall anyone mentioning CH even once.

1. I'm embarrassed to say that the iPhone has become something of a status signal

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Post by seanp2k2 » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

codethief wrote: post #35

tomhoward wrote: post #9

I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…

> I heard him make the claim that Clubhouse has bigger potential than text-based social platforms, because talking has less friction than writing Finding people that talk about stuff is one thing, finding people who like to listen to other people talking is the other. Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading.

I did not have a need for content to fill the gaps between a YouTube video, a podcast, and a phone call or group video chat. The exclusivity and talk of rampant racists [0] on the platform killed any interest I had in checking it out. I really don’t get what problem they think this solves for users.

0. https://www.thelily.com/women-in-tech-are-networking-through... - there are more if you Google around but this was the first thing that came up and I recall reading something similar.

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Post by seanp2k2 » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 10:33 PM UTC

benhurmarcel wrote: post #108

mordymoop wrote: post #10

The thing that you notice almost immediately is that the vast majority of people suck at the medium of Clubhouse. It’s like scrolling through an endless list of the worst podcasts in the world.

Good quality content is almost always edited, not live.

And what is live is almost always well-rehearsed.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Post by md_ » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 10:39 PM UTC

I can't help but think of this hilarious NY Times weddings announcement about a couple of "influencers" who met on Clubhouse: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/style/natasha-grano-micha....

Yes, it's the Times Wedding announcements, which are always sort of like this, but it's hard for me to see this as anything other than an indicator that Clubhouse is a niche app for...influencers...who influence...other influencers? I guess?

Or perhaps I'm just old.

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Post by rospaya » Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 10:43 PM UTC

thejackgoode wrote: post #3

I enjoyed the Clubhouse for a week. There were very dense and valuable conversations in certain segments. However, it quickly became the case for changing the saying “marketers ruin everything” to “marketers ruin everything really really fast”

Sounds like Linkedin.