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Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

swiley wrote: post #8
sp332 wrote: post #2

4 years ago, Archive Team backed up "nearly all" of Vidme (according to Jason Scott). It was uploaded to the Internet Archive here https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_vidme so you can fix your vid.me URLs by pointing them to the Archive. (And you can help keep them there, too https://archive.org/donate But honestly, using the Archive more keeps the bigger donors involved, so don't feel guilty or anything. Just us…

That really is an amazing organization.

There should be more than one archive.org

Why not. Is it really impossible

I read a significant percentage of HN submissions through archive.org. Saves me DNS lookups. Recent pages look exactly the same to me as their "live" versions, the retrieval time is rarely bad.^1

Its probably the best "CDN" as it has the largest amount and variety of content

There should be more than one archive.org (and more than one ArchiveTeam). These projects work and they are standing the test of time. archive.org is older than Google. Much, much older in "internet time".

1. I use a text-only browser though so not sure how tolerable it would through Javascript-enabled graphical browser

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by TekMol »

crummy wrote: post #78
TekMol wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem that someone else can move your domain. The same problem it solves for finance: That someone else can move your money.

Don't normal domains work the same - you pay a fee and you get the domain for X years? In both situations the domains expire and a porn site can nab them.

With normal domains, the registrar can move your domain without your approval.

So they could do so out of malice or because they get tricked into believing you gave them the go or because they got hacked or got ordered to do so by some governmental institution or or or ...

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by kosayoda »

amatecha wrote: post #110
edoceo wrote: post #63

One of the services I've sold more than once was to handle the "offlining" of a domain. Basically provide a 307/404/410 service and make sure it works for a long time before the name gets released. Basically to help clean up on the way out.

why 307 (temporary) and not 308 (permanent)? (curious about this as when I used to work on a ton of company websites and migrate from old sites, there'd always be a big process of setting up a ton of 301 (permanent) redirects)

As both the post topic and the parent comment topic are about domain changes, wouldn't that basically direct users of the old site on the domain to a totally different domain when they want to access the new site on the same domain?

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by Causality1 »

tech234a wrote: post #68
Causality1 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish they'd been doing that when Google Video shut down. Lost a lot of good content I didn't download.

They did: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Google_Video

I think I'm not understanding something. I believe https://archive.org/details/googlevideo2011 is supposed to be the videos they downloaded but I'm not getting any results no matter what search term I put in. Is there a searchable archive of Google Video content?

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by nerdponx »

dragonwriter wrote: post #53
anigbrowl wrote: post #46

What's the win for the new owner, do they make money from linking to the porn somehow? Sure it could also be just for lulz but there are many equally or more lulzy possibilities whereas porn often seems to be coupled with economic gain.

> What's the win for the new owner, do they make money from linking to the porn somehow? They are the porn (the new owner is a porn firm), so, yes. I haven't seen the actual linked content, but I assume its something like free samples with directions telling people where to get more; its a move that gets porn ads placed for free in a lot of places that would never choose to allow porn ads.

It might also be an accident, if all the embeds are iframes that redirect to the homepage.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by edoceo »

amatecha wrote: post #110
edoceo wrote: post #63

One of the services I've sold more than once was to handle the "offlining" of a domain. Basically provide a 307/404/410 service and make sure it works for a long time before the name gets released. Basically to help clean up on the way out.

why 307 (temporary) and not 308 (permanent)? (curious about this as when I used to work on a ton of company websites and migrate from old sites, there'd always be a big process of setting up a ton of 301 (permanent) redirects)

Sorry, just a typo from the brain. It's a config option - with a few in the 300 series, mostly choosing a permanent option

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by paulddraper »

ignitionmonkey wrote: post #13

We can't and shouldn't expect people to keep their old domains forever. We need a way for pages to be signed and hyperlinks to enforce authorship. When we link to stuff, we should have a way to say whose stuff we're linking to. It's no different from installing signed software and using trusted repositories. This is one of the reasons I created a proof-of-concept web extension that verifies links and pages using PGP.…

It's not a solvable problem.

Domains need to be short to be memorized, which makes them scare and valuable.

And having two forms of URLs is undesirable; just look at AMP.

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by skipants »

giantrobot wrote: post #90
skipants wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have expertise in video codecs or file formats, but couldn't you hash the first N bytes of a stream? Stream those N bytes to the client and if it matches start the video, else stop the download and not start the video.

This has a number of problems. The most egregious is if I'm an attacker and I have the file you request I can hash the appropriate portion you'd use to verify it but fill the rest with junk or exploits. You'd receive the file, it would emit the correct hash, yet be not what you were expecting. For video especially what you receive isn't necessarily predictable by the client. With HLS or MPEG DASH streaming the video…

Well explained. Thank you!

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by amatecha »

kosayoda wrote: post #113
amatecha wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why 307 (temporary) and not 308 (permanent)? (curious about this as when I used to work on a ton of company websites and migrate from old sites, there'd always be a big process of setting up a ton of 301 (permanent) redirects)

As both the post topic and the parent comment topic are about domain changes, wouldn't that basically direct users of the old site on the domain to a totally different domain when they want to access the new site on the same domain?

It could.. it all depends how the redirects are set up.

You can use 301/308 redirect for either new page/path or new domain, or both. It's pretty flexible. If you're interested to learn more, Google has a pretty good "best practices" page at https://developers.google.com/search/docs/advanced/crawling/...

Re: Old Vidme embeds turn into porn after domain purchase

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Post by amatecha »

edoceo wrote: post #116
amatecha wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why 307 (temporary) and not 308 (permanent)? (curious about this as when I used to work on a ton of company websites and migrate from old sites, there'd always be a big process of setting up a ton of 301 (permanent) redirects)

Sorry, just a typo from the brain. It's a config option - with a few in the 300 series, mostly choosing a permanent option

Ahh cool, I see! All good, was curious if there was some new special technique maybe I hadn't heard about, haha :)
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