iDOS 2 will be gone soon • Hacker News Board

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by phist_mcgee » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:47 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #102

southerntofu wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple, like most corporations, is happy to entertain passive consumers. After all, empowering people to learn new things about computers could lead to healthy competition, and that's definitely not something we want, or is it?!

Well, Apple needs a pool of talented developers to build apps on their platform. And to hire from.

The noughties dream of 'digital natives' has not ever come to fruition. Children growing up around technology has not brought great understanding of computing/creating software, instead it has driven a race to the bottom for passive apps, with predatory attention grabbing mechanics.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by nicolas_t » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice.

Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google

Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want.

I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and the behavior of those companies that completely disrespect and tramples their customer right makes my blood boil.

I just want both the right to use my phone fully and the right to my privacy.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by LucidLynx » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:45 AM UTC

How funny it is to remove this app because it "loads executable" as they released Swift Playground years ago...

Plus the new feature of creating and packaging your iOS / iPadOS app + uploading it, directly on the iPad.

Apple seems to contradict its own rules since a few years now.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by user3939382 » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:48 AM UTC

I guess we need a congressional bill that lets people sideload apps on their phone. It seems ridiculous to have to get to that level but apparently that’s the only way. We have some progress now on right to repair. Next up, right to use.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by throwawayswede » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:48 AM UTC

heavyset_go wrote: post #53

This is a good example of how innovation, competition and small businesses are being stifled by the anticompetitive behavior of the mobile app distribution cartel. Consider contacting your state's Attorney General office, and the US Attorney General office. Many states' AG offices have antitrust divisions[1]. The US Dept. of Justice also has an Antitrust Division[2], along with a page that details how and why[3] to g…

While I disagree with Apple's policies (and really hate their behavior as a company), there's nothing anticompetitive about this.

Vote with your money and don't buy an iPhone.

As Rand would put it:

> “Free competition enforced by law” is a grotesque contradiction in terms.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by jhasse » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:49 AM UTC

nicolas_t wrote: post #112

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

You can use Android without Google, for example https://e.foundation/

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by m4rtink » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:51 AM UTC

kolyaio wrote: post #79

These stupid limitation by Apple makes me really hope that there will be real competition in the tablet space. Android tablets basically failed because most apps are just bit phone apps. Windows tablet aren’t that successful either. The thing is iPads offer good experience as a tablet but when you want from it a bit more Apple doesn’t allow it because of their Apps Store policies. Personally I think iPad could be a g…

Galaxy Tab devices work fine IMHO - I have a Galaxy Tab S6 and use it for many thing, including quite involved digital drawing with the desktop level Clip Studio Paint. It has a very good keyboard cover and can be easily connected to a full screen and keyboard/mouse with a HDMI dongle, which makes it switch to the desktop style DEX interface. You can also combine this with the Wacom One drawing tablet and get a really nice and flexible mobile drawing workstation.

Also in the future Steam Deck might actually fit the category! Like if you don't mind the extra knobs and controls it's basically a fully supported Linux tablet! :)

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by rusk » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:55 AM UTC

nicolas_t wrote: post #112

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

There really needs to be a third way … how are Linux smart phones looking? No hope of getting WhatsApp etc presumably but at the very least a fairly solid browser should be possible …

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by donkarma » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:55 AM UTC

nicolas_t wrote: post #112

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

Do you need a phone?

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Post by codetrotter » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 10:56 AM UTC

LucidLynx wrote: post #113

How funny it is to remove this app because it "loads executable" as they released Swift Playground years ago... Plus the new feature of creating and packaging your iOS / iPadOS app + uploading it, directly on the iPad. Apple seems to contradict its own rules since a few years now.

There's no contradiction here. The App Store rules apply to everyone else wanting to publish something on the App Store. Obviously Apple has its own internal rules for what their own software can do.