Amazon Shuts Down NSO Group Infrastructure

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:09 PM UTC

lokedhs wrote: post #13

neom wrote: post #8

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It's "DigitalOcean" - sorry to be pedantic, it drives me absolutely nuts when people put a space between, especially publications.

There is another point if view, and that is that corporate marketing should not take precedence over correct use of language. Some languages tend to be more strict about this. I think it's particularly common to see English play fast and loose with the language compared to other languages. In Sweden, for example you will see media write Iphone, because it's a name, and names are capitalised. The same goes for Digital…

Post by Dah00n » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:09 PM UTC

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Isn't the line due process of law, though? If NSO is allegedly committing a crime, then we can punish them in courts of law that are empowered and qualified to investigate the allegations fully and decide whether to deprive them of their rights. Why would we put these decisions in the hands of Big Tech? At least, that's what I heard during the debates about deplatforming Parler. It was apparently very bad for private…

> Isn't the line due process of law, though? For state actions, yes. For private actors, if I suspect someone is using my services to break the law or engage in terrorism, "but your honor, I didn't have a court order confirming they were terrorists" won't cut my liability. Parler was a free speech question because it was almost purely speech. NSO Group isn't just speaking. It's doing, and it's doing things that will…

Post by jumelles » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:11 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #18

neom wrote: post #8

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It's "DigitalOcean" - sorry to be pedantic, it drives me absolutely nuts when people put a space between, especially publications.

My pet peeve is publications spelling NASA as Nasa. They've come up with some story to explain their decision that sounds just as bad as some of the lies Walter White told. I don't care how ubiquitous NASA maybe, it is and always will be an acronym. I accept removing the dots so it's not N.A.S.A., but I will only accept Nasa as a formal name if that's the name of a person.

Post by wolverine876 » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:13 PM UTC

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It feels like this is more a result of Amazon not being able to connect you with the right escalation path to verify & act on these claims than a considered decision to ignore them. Those two things are actually the same thing, both are wilfully ignoring situations like this.

Never assume malice where ignorance and incompetence would suffice instead. Those two things are actually not the same thing at all, depending on how you define “willful.”

Post by flyinglizard » Mon, Jul 19, 2021, 4:14 PM UTC

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The biggest customers for these companies are Western governments. You’re not going to take away their toys.

Their biggest customers are middle eastern governments according to the WaPo article. US certainly has bought the software but it's mostly Saudi, UAE, Qatar, etc. US has NSA so they don't really need some software. Middle eastern powers dont have the same type of technical expertise to develop their own in-house.