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Re: Firefox 90

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

cassianoleal wrote: post #18

> Now, SmartBlock 2.0 in Firefox 90 eliminates this login problem. Initially, Facebook scripts are all blocked, just as before, ensuring your privacy is preserved. But when you click on the “Continue with Facebook” button to sign in, SmartBlock reacts by quickly unblocking the Facebook login script just in time for the sign-in to proceed smoothly. I wonder how it does that, and if it's open to exploitation by a malic…

Am I reading this right? Firefox now implements special logic just for Facebook?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Tagbert »

tapoxi wrote: post #5

I think Firefox has ~5% of our user base. It's hard to justify running separate tests for it anymore. I wish they'd just become a privacy-focused Chromium fork because I don't see them crawling back to a meaningful marketshare at this rate. (Yeah I know multiple implementations and all that, but we don't have many people running FreeBSD just to give Linux some competition.)

Firefox is more like 8-9% of the desktop market. It’s hard for alternative browsers to hold share on mobile where the defaults are set by the platform owners.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by akho »

metalliqaz wrote: post #70
akho wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tab bar is functionally useless if you have > 10 tabs open, so I don't even know why I'd notice. Aesthetically, it's fine for me. Option to hide it completely (replacing with a mobile-style full-screen modal view with properly sized previews and keyboard navigation / fuzzy finding if you allow me to dream) would be nice.

I started using Tree Style Tab to manage them, and I like that very much. I agree, a mobile-style manager would be interesting.

I use tridactyl’s `:b` often. No previews, no fullscreen, no fuzzy matching, but at least full titles and word search.

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by sambe »

dopu wrote: post #32

Excited that there's more progress being done in implementing proper site isolation. Would be great to not feel like I'm losing something in sticking with FF over Chromium-based browsers.

Does Chrome have better site isolation?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Hallucinaut »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #111
cassianoleal wrote: post #18

> Now, SmartBlock 2.0 in Firefox 90 eliminates this login problem. Initially, Facebook scripts are all blocked, just as before, ensuring your privacy is preserved. But when you click on the “Continue with Facebook” button to sign in, SmartBlock reacts by quickly unblocking the Facebook login script just in time for the sign-in to proceed smoothly. I wonder how it does that, and if it's open to exploitation by a malic…

Am I reading this right? Firefox now implements special logic just for Facebook?

They have had a special logic AGAINST Facebook for a long time now, via Facebook containers

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by sambe »

jszymborski wrote: post #3
ducktective wrote: post #2

> FTP support has been removed sigh

It's my initial reaction too, but if I stop to think of Firefox as a huge, difficult-to-manage project where each feature costs dev resources and increases security risk, FTP support is probably the feature I wouldn't mind removed right next to the Pocket integration.

I don't think my estimate of the cost of FTP maintenance would be as high as yours. Why do you think FTP would still be such a cost at this stage?

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by joecool1029 »

jules-jules wrote: post #98

This might get lost but figure if someone knows about it it's here. Old Firefox allowed to double-click between two words and both would get highlighted. This has been removed in the newer versions. Does anybody know if it's possible to manually configure this?

There's a 3 settings under layout.word_select in about:config. They unfortunately don't do what you're asking, but there is an open bug for this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1706990

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by Nadya »

metalliqaz wrote: post #70
akho wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tab bar is functionally useless if you have > 10 tabs open, so I don't even know why I'd notice. Aesthetically, it's fine for me. Option to hide it completely (replacing with a mobile-style full-screen modal view with properly sized previews and keyboard navigation / fuzzy finding if you allow me to dream) would be nice.

I started using Tree Style Tab to manage them, and I like that very much. I agree, a mobile-style manager would be interesting.

Sounds a bit like you'd like Tab Groups. I used Tab Groups extensively until that functionality was ripped out and put into a shitty, poorly maintained, broken add-on. A quick Ctrl+Shift+E and I could organize everything into work/research/gaming/wikis/whatever and quickly search all tabs or within a specific tab group to switch tabs. The add-on kind of works but isn't as feature complete and from my experience was pretty buggy and wouldn't properly maintain my groups between sessions sometimes.

Honestly web browsers have been in a steady decline for me ever since FF34~ish with the exception of better modern CSS/JS support. They kill features and functionality I use extensively and rarely provide any alternatives. Few of my browser extensions even work since FF killed off all old addons. It forced me to use Chrome and now Chrome is looking like they'll be killing off a good number of extensions I use in the near future. Can't have a browser for power-users because power-users don't make up enough market share. sigh

Re: Firefox 90

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Post by wisniewskit »

hypertele-Xii wrote: post #111
cassianoleal wrote: post #18

> Now, SmartBlock 2.0 in Firefox 90 eliminates this login problem. Initially, Facebook scripts are all blocked, just as before, ensuring your privacy is preserved. But when you click on the “Continue with Facebook” button to sign in, SmartBlock reacts by quickly unblocking the Facebook login script just in time for the sign-in to proceed smoothly. I wonder how it does that, and if it's open to exploitation by a malic…

Am I reading this right? Firefox now implements special logic just for Facebook?

Yes, though in this case it's for sites relying on Facebook's login authenticator, not really Facebook itself.

SmartBlock also contains special logic for Google Analytics, Google Publisher Tags, and other trackers that cause sites to break when blocked. It's not meant for their benefit, but the user's.

In fact all browsers have special web-compatibility interventions for sites which don't work correctly in them. Even Chrome. And sometimes even for major sites and services, especially when it comes to anti-tracking features.

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