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Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by nhooyr »

breck wrote: post #35
enriquto wrote: post #31

This is extremely infuriating. Alexandra Elbakyan has done a huge positive contribution to human civilization, even knowing that it was putting herself at personal risk. She's just 32 years old. How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can. Anybody who has ever supported their research using Sci-Hub (or Lib…

We need to start organizing and go on the offensive: abolish copyright and patents through a constitutional amendment— http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendmen... If you’re wondering how to get the public to support it, we need to start spreading the truth. The opioid crisis kicked off by Purdue? Wouldn’t have happened without USPTO. Big tech monopolists? They get their monopoly power from IS laws…

What is IS law?

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by enriquto »

nicolas_t wrote: post #13

> The website is blocked in a dozen countries, including Austria, Britain, and France. I'm deeply ashamed that my country would block sci-hub given that the current system is preventing scientific development.

> I'm deeply ashamed that my country would block sci-hub given that the current system is preventing scientific development.

Are you in France? In that case you'll find that french academic librarians are extremely open to this stuff. I have participated in some proposals to cancel all elsevier+other library subscriptions and give all that money directly to SciHub, and the librarians were always very receptive to the idea. Unfortunately, this sort of initiative inevitably gets stuck in the upper echelons of some administrative procedure and never materializes. I guess predatory editors have a deeply entrenched influence within the academic institutions, otherwise I don't understand how that happens...

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by qayxc »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #88
dang wrote: post #3

Submitted URL was https://archive.ph/huNwk . It's ok to post workaround links in the thread, but please don't make them the top level submission. We want the original source for that.

The irony of needing an unlicensed copy of an article to read about a website that publishes unlicensed copies of articles.

You can just disable JavaScript and the site works fine.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by leephillips »

crumbshot wrote: post #106
leephillips wrote: post #12

Ms. Elbakyan attacked me rather hysterically on Twitter when she learned of an article¹ on my site that describes several methods to acquire free copies of scientific articles, including Sci-Hub. I tried to get her to tell me why she thought it was terrible of me to mention any non-Sci-Hub pathways, but her replies made less sense with each iteration. So I think that Sci-Hub has been a valuable resource, but I have c…

> Ms. Elbakyan attacked me rather hysterically on Twitter when she learned of an article on my site that describes several methods to acquire free copies of scientific articles, Just looks like an emphatic disagreement to me: https://web.archive.org/web/20200928010251/https://twitter.c... , https://web.archive.org/web/20200928011503/https://twitter.c... Also, considering the etymology ("of the womb"), your criticism…

Thanks for digging that up, I appreciate it; I didn’t think of looking in the Archive.

We’ll have to disagree about whether her reaction was hysterical. She called my article “ridiculous” and compared it to recommending that people use horse-and-buggy transportation. I was pretty mystified by the tenor of her remarks. One of my points was that Sci-Hub could become unavailable, either globally or locally, so it’s good to know about other ways to get one’s hands on articles. Just mentioning alternatives was offensive to her. We see now that this was not an unrealistic consideration.

EDIT: It’s not ideal to add to your comments using the edit button without marking them as edits. Let me reply to your last sentence by saying I do not think it is sexist to use the word “hysterical”, which has a well-understood meaning apart from its etymology, to someone who happens to be female. In fact, I think it would be very silly to police one’s speech in this way.

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Post by smsm42 »

chaps wrote: post #95

It's ironic and frustrating that the site requires you to sign in to read the article...

It kinda does but kinda doesn't. It puts up a banner to block you reading without registering, but it's pretty easy to remove it from the page if you're comfortable with Chrome's DevTools.

Also, https://archive.ph/huNwk

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by easton »

enriquto wrote: post #112
nicolas_t wrote: post #13

> The website is blocked in a dozen countries, including Austria, Britain, and France. I'm deeply ashamed that my country would block sci-hub given that the current system is preventing scientific development.

> I'm deeply ashamed that my country would block sci-hub given that the current system is preventing scientific development. Are you in France? In that case you'll find that french academic librarians are extremely open to this stuff. I have participated in some proposals to cancel all elsevier+other library subscriptions and give all that money directly to SciHub, and the librarians were always very receptive to the…

It probably eventually reaches the ears of someone who's heard of the concept of a lawsuit, and is deeply afraid of Elsevier making an example of a school by suing it into the stone-age, something they desperately want to do to scare every other school away from Sci-Hub.

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Post by School-Cotton »

eruci wrote: post #104

The article about the pirate queen is behind a paywall. The irony.

Not really. One can support paying for journalism but not scientific articles (because the latter are typically funded other than by journal access fees, meaning journals are engaged in pure rent-seeking).

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by smsm42 »

Jsone wrote: post #6

The article is blocked behind a subscription prompt for me, but it's implemented in a silly way that's trivially by-passable. It's just some js code that checks if you've scrolled past a limit and scrolls you back to the top if so. Anything that removes js from the content defeats it, including Firefox's built-in Reader View.

Or go to https://archive.ph/huNwk

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by VortexDream »

enriquto wrote: post #31

This is extremely infuriating. Alexandra Elbakyan has done a huge positive contribution to human civilization, even knowing that it was putting herself at personal risk. She's just 32 years old. How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can. Anybody who has ever supported their research using Sci-Hub (or Lib…

The world is infinitely worse if she or sci-hub are taken out. There's no way to quantify how incredibly useful it is to humanity as a whole, and it's probably the single best creation of the past 100 years, with no exaggeration. It's delivering what we always envisioned for the internet. The free exchange of information and ideas, no matter your nationality, your wealth, color of skin, etc.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Post by leephillips »

Caylio wrote: post #98
leephillips wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The account from which she attacked me is suspended, and the tweets do not show. If I linked to the thread, which I can if you insist, it will only have my side of the conversation. Those who know me also know that I am telling the truth. If you prefer to disregard what I say, that’s fine with me.

If you don't link to the thread, everyone will prefer to disregard what you say.

See up above, where someone found it in the Archive.
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