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The 'Fuck You' Pattern

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Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#112
This is the reason why I don't use Instagram...and that it also tries to force you to install an app instead of using the browser because you know...they can spy more from a phone.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#113
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…

old.reddit.com is still around, for now, and does not have any of this garbage.

It doesn't... but the nature of Reddit has been clearly driven by the "new" interface. There's a lot less text-based technical content, and a lot more image/gif meme-based content because that's what the new interface is optimized for - and it goes out of its way to make it very, very hard to see the deep text nested comments that are the dominant feature of the old interface (and HN).

So, while you can browse the place with the old interface, the nature and trends of Reddit are mostly driven by the new interface.

Which is fine, if they want to go that way, it's just a shame that what used to make it any good is dead or dying.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#114

"Wow, fuck you. I just wanted to look at cats." "Well, fuck you, too. We're here to sell ads." It's not about dark patterns, that's just a second-order effect. It was never about dark patterns. This is the implied agreement. You understand it, or you don't. And if you don't, I guess you haven't been on the web in the past decade or something. What? You thought it was fair that a company spends millions in technical i…

They can still have ads for people that don't create an account.

I think the point you are trying to make is that people are demanding free (as in beer) content, a la WinAmp of the 1990's. In the past 20 years, we've come around out of that greedy phase and have come to accept a certain amount of advertising for content. But when the non-free content dominates the free content (e.g. pinterest's SEO), it's a fuck you pattern and not consumer greed.

EDIT: IMHO

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#116
post #48
post #13

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…

Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…

Pinterest is by the far the worst because it takes content from the rest of the world and strips away all context. It's the anti-wikipedia, an information black hole.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#117
My theory is that Instagram is probably trying to prevent bots capable of rendering pages and making changes on the DOM (e.g. Selenium or chromedp) from harvesting their unauthenticated access rights to Instagram's frontend to crawl/collect images.

Hence, as the author tried to circumvent it, they probably got IPbanned.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#118
post #48
post #13

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…

Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…

> Ironically, a good workaround is setting your user agent to the Googlebot and suddenly all those modal/nag screens disappear.

All those robots sharing data among themselves with no humans needed or, apparently, wanted.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#119
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pinterest and Reddit are not better these days. The amount of things you can view on reddit on your phone without creating an account or installing the app is dwindling daily. Every time my wife sends me a Pinterest link I just ask her to screenshot it as I can't see shit on the default mobile page. I don't even know why Google continues to allow them in the results when there is clear-cut policies around showing som…

old.reddit.com is still around, for now, and does not have any of this garbage.

old.reddit.com is clearly beginning to rot:

1. The new Reddit seems to have a different markdown parser which allows surrounding unindented code with ``` lines. This doesn't render on old Reddit.

2. New Reddit seems to be saving links with escaped underscores and correcting for it at render time? I've started to see people posting broken links like https://example.com/some\_path\_with\_underscores when it should be https://example.com/some_path_with_underscores

3. Posts with multiple images sometimes don't work? I haven't been inconvenienced enough by this yet to investigate.

Re: The 'Fuck You' Pattern

#120
post #13

I love instagram. It's the best social media site. Last time I checked, I couldn't even make an account from my desktop computer. I'm not gonna even try to install their app on my G-free phone. When a friends sends me a link to Instagram, I know that I don't need to click on it -- the thumbnail contains all the information that I'd ever see without creating an account. When news articles consist of a bunch of embedde…

I don't know if it's just me or what, but I can no longer view Instagram posts while logged out.

Other people report being able to, but it just sends me straight to a login page.

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