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Exactly. It recently got a feature that totally obliterates Clubhouse out of the Pacific ocean. At this point Telegram is unrivalled and already has almost everything that WhatApp has, except for E2EE turned on by default.
Exactly. WhatsApp has everything that Telegram has and they look up to them for "inspiration".
Telegram does not have group voice nor video calls. It has voice (and now video) chats . // Unless I am not aware of any recent change, I tested this last month and don't see any related update ever since. Which is not the same, and actually, for me is not useful at all. The main difference is that a "chat" does not ring the other participants' phones, which is a must for me to "call" my family either voice or video.…
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And ephemeral, when desired by the user.
This is kind of loaded. I do think Telegram does an excellent job at ephemerality from a practical standpoint. Without being able to audit their server though, we have no clue if 'disappeared' chats and messages are actually scrubbed from their server. I was once banned from the service for playing around with very old clients and had a back and forth with them over email for a week or so (it was re-enabled and they…
Automatically disappearing messages are only available in "secret" chats and those are end-to-end encrypted.
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This is kind of loaded. I do think Telegram does an excellent job at ephemerality from a practical standpoint. Without being able to audit their server though, we have no clue if 'disappeared' chats and messages are actually scrubbed from their server. I was once banned from the service for playing around with very old clients and had a back and forth with them over email for a week or so (it was re-enabled and they…
> Without being able to audit their server though, we have no clue if 'disappeared' chats and messages are actually scrubbed from their server. Automatically disappearing messages are only available in "secret" chats and those are end-to-end encrypted.
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I've never used Clubhouse, but on iOS and macOS Telegram looks and feels very native.. but better . Snappier, faster, more responsive, yet still looks correct , and works as I expect native apps to work.
The thing is though, apps that look native often look like they were made by beginners. The native look on both iOS and Android is also starting to look dated in terms of graphic design. Most popular apps don't use native design but rather artistically always a step ahead of native. Think of e.g. the Airbnb, Uber, Slack, Discord, Instagram apps. If Instagram or Airbnb used native iOS/Android design they'd lose users…
Uber and Slack look nice but they're rather slow. After a week, the "looks nice" part ceases to matter and all that's left is the annoyance of waiting 200ms-1000ms between every action.
Telegram does not have group voice nor video calls. It has voice (and now video) chats . // Unless I am not aware of any recent change, I tested this last month and don't see any related update ever since. Which is not the same, and actually, for me is not useful at all. The main difference is that a "chat" does not ring the other participants' phones, which is a must for me to "call" my family either voice or video.…
Telegram has absolutely amazing UX on all platforms I've used it on, I hope they can roll out encryption for group chats soon and show somehow that we can trust that encryption.
Really? Every Telegram group I tried to chat started spamming me with notifications every few seconds and I uninstalled the damn thing. The UI also looks like it was made by a intern who just learned how to use Android Studio, not like something new and cool. The actual text "Telegram" and a magnifying glass button instead of a search bar, hamburger menu instead of your own profile pic, no big fat QR scan icon, ...
It's refreshing to see original thoughts in illustration.
To me Telegram feels like the red corner district of a city. I simply don't feel like I can trust it, there's something very shady about it. I wouldn't be surprised if Telegram reads those exclusive Bitcoin whale groups and uses that insider info. Group chats are not end to end encrypted. That being said, WhatsApp is like the authorized garage where you know that you'll get the service which is officially recognized…
It seems like whenever telegram is brought up here, there's a lot of speculation about it not being trustworthy but no concrete evidence.
The client is open source. While not end to end encrypted by default, it shares that property with most messengers. E2E limits search-ability and other features so it's a tradeoff.
I have to wonder if part of why this is mostly brought up is due to the origin of the app being a group with a Russian nationality. That's pretty sad.
The app is damn good. The best messenger app I've used - much better than signal. I'm so disappointed by this attitude.
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Exactly. WhatsApp has everything that Telegram has and they look up to them for "inspiration".
Except for the huge red flag that WhatsApp is owned by Facebook.
It's just not a red flag. It's a minefield.