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Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by walrus01 »

notyourday wrote: post #43
walrus01 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3U and 4U x86 whitebox servers designed for any standard 12"x13" motherboard, where the entire front panel was hotswap 3.5" HDD bays were already a thing many, many years before backblaze existed. What wasn't really a thing was servers with hotswap HDD trays on both ends (like the supermicros) and things that were designed with vertical hard drives dropped down from a top-opening lid to achieve even higher density.

That's not the backblaze design. The backblaze design is that the drives are individually hot-swappable without a tray. 60 commodity SATA drives that can be removed and serviced individually while a 4U server continues to operate normally is pretty amazing.

that's what I said, the backblaze design is:

> things that were designed with vertical hard drives dropped down from a top-opening lid to achieve even higher density.

the backblaze storage pod system and some 3rd party derived designs have the SATA/power ports on PCBs facing upwards, mounted at bottom interior of rack chassis, and 3.5" HDDs mounted vertically down into the system.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by josefresco »

VOSgqcSyGdPhGWP wrote: post #110
josefresco wrote: post #26

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I looked into Chia mining as a hobby and was directed to Burstcoin. I don't know much about either, but Burstcoin advocates claim it's the "better" PoC. Note: I went to double check something on the Burstcoin website and realized today, June 24th they changed their name to Signum - https://www.burst-coin.org/

Why not do something useful with the space like FileCoin or Arweave?

Cool thanks! I didn't know about either, I'll check them out. Are you suggesting Burstcoin is not useful? How do the 4 (Chia/Burst/FileCoin/Arweave) compare? What are FileCoin and Arweave used for now?

FWIW the Burstcoin community have been very helpful, and they have a Windows client which was nice for a "hobbyist" like me.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by toomuchtodo »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #55
erikpt-work wrote: post #50

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Could be the MD3060e with an R650 server? https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-shee...

Your link 404s, I think it's the extra character on the end.

https://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-shee...

Working link.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by VOSgqcSyGdPhGWP »

josefresco wrote: post #112
VOSgqcSyGdPhGWP wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not do something useful with the space like FileCoin or Arweave?

Cool thanks! I didn't know about either, I'll check them out. Are you suggesting Burstcoin is not useful? How do the 4 (Chia/Burst/FileCoin/Arweave) compare? What are FileCoin and Arweave used for now? FWIW the Burstcoin community have been very helpful, and they have a Windows client which was nice for a "hobbyist" like me.

Bitcoin may be useful but the calculations done for its proof-of-work don't do anything useful outside of Bitcoin. The same is true of Chia. It uses up hard drive space as a mechanism to validate transactions but IIRC that space is essentially random bytes. On the other hand, with arweave or filecoin you are storing files for people.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by lalaland1125 »

VOSgqcSyGdPhGWP wrote: post #114
josefresco wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cool thanks! I didn't know about either, I'll check them out. Are you suggesting Burstcoin is not useful? How do the 4 (Chia/Burst/FileCoin/Arweave) compare? What are FileCoin and Arweave used for now? FWIW the Burstcoin community have been very helpful, and they have a Windows client which was nice for a "hobbyist" like me.

Bitcoin may be useful but the calculations done for its proof-of-work don't do anything useful outside of Bitcoin. The same is true of Chia. It uses up hard drive space as a mechanism to validate transactions but IIRC that space is essentially random bytes. On the other hand, with arweave or filecoin you are storing files for people.

Do note that there is very little current use of Filecoin storage. Right now it's not too different from Chia.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by chx »

aidenn0 wrote: post #104
chx wrote: post #82

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https://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/281015-poweredge-r740xd... super interesting design.

That looks like 13 drives per U (26 in 2U); weren't the BB pods 15 drives per U (60 in 4U)?

Up to Storage Pod 5.0 they used 45 per 4U, 6.0 was 60 indeed but it was hanging out from the rack so it is understandable no major OEM has a chassis like that. 52 serviceable drives is not bad at all.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by Molly666 »

that_lurker wrote: post #19
foodstances wrote: post #16

Did the surge in Chia mining affect global hard drive prices at all?

Not yet, but when Chia pools become available the mining will take off and hdd prices will most likely rice

I don't think using third-party mining pools is a good idea. From the point of view of data security, this is a very big risk. In addition, I am not sure that this coin will really be as popular as, for example, bitcoin. In addition, she is absolutely not eco friendly, as was originally stated. Greener alternatives like Сrypton https://utopia-ecosystem.org/ are the best alternative.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Post by ricardobeat »

choppaface wrote: post #83
ricardobeat wrote: post #74

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I sync my NAS to Backblaze B2 without any issues, and pricing is great.

Yeah but I don't want to pay B2 prices. I don't have a PB, but I have more than I'd really like to hang off one machine.

1TB = $5 on B2. It's pretty great pricing, and there is no reason for them to give you that for free in the backup plan, when it would obviously be at a loss. The "unlimited" plan pricing reflects the fact that very few people carry 1TB+ laptops around.
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