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Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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krapp wrote: post #52
burnished wrote: post #35

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Even recent music history is steeped in racism. Its not imagining racism to notice that some peoples views and tastes 'just happen' to only include white people.

See: Music Theory and White Supremacy by Adam Neely[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA The TL;DR for people who will be immediately triggered by the title and not bother to view is that Western music theory was intentionally designed around white supremacist ideals. It is exclusionary of the ideas and contributions of non-European cultures, and purposely so, as it deems them inferior.

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Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by mahathu »

abxytg wrote: post #24

> I observe many people, interestingly the majority of it are girls, that seem to never stop messaging with their boyfriend, their friends, their mother,… It was just the same old "I wish I was deep" stoic drivel till here and it's clear this was probably written by a 17 year old.

I would like to place a bet on whether or not that person has a partner he exchanges such messages with.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by unethical_ban »

dang wrote: post #93
blacktriangle wrote: post #16

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You do realize that lots of popular old music was written by all races? Stop trying to see racism everywhere where where there is none, it'll do wonders for your blood pressure.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, and especially not on generic ideological flamewar tangents: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... . I know the GP contained a provocation, but that's no reason to single it out, pour fuel on it, and light it on fire. When you do that, you seriously damage this place. The intended spirit of HN is curiosity (specifically intellectual curiosi…

Preface: I know you act in good faith.

I don't think it's fair to let one person call people racist for being snooty about classical music, but lecture the person who finds that offensive and inappropriate on its own.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by krapp »

lliamander wrote: post #108
krapp wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See: Music Theory and White Supremacy by Adam Neely[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA The TL;DR for people who will be immediately triggered by the title and not bother to view is that Western music theory was intentionally designed around white supremacist ideals. It is exclusionary of the ideas and contributions of non-European cultures, and purposely so, as it deems them inferior.

I haven't finished this video yet, but its thesis so far seems rather absurd. It mentions a variety of music styles produced heavily[0] by white people (country, rock, EDM) which are not well suited to analysis by music theory, but then goes on to claim that music theory is about promoting "whiteness". This is a rather large hole, one I'm doubtful will be closed. [0] if not exclusively.

None of those genres are produced exclusively by white people, and two of them are direct descendants of African American music.

I assume you've finished the video by now, so I look forward to reading your informed opinion of it.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by dang »

Bancakes wrote: post #105
dang wrote: post #96

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You posted religious flamewar in one thread and racial flamewar in a second thread, all on the same day. That's not at all what this site is for and we ban accounts that abuse it like this. We have to, because otherwise flamewars will burn it to a crisp, and scorched earth is not interesting ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu... ). If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.co…

Okay, I respect your dedication as an admin. I don't think it's flamewars but I agree hacker news should not become 4chan. I'll stick to the guide lines better.

Appreciated!

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by dang »

blacktriangle wrote: post #98
dang wrote: post #93

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Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, and especially not on generic ideological flamewar tangents: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... . I know the GP contained a provocation, but that's no reason to single it out, pour fuel on it, and light it on fire. When you do that, you seriously damage this place. The intended spirit of HN is curiosity (specifically intellectual curiosi…

I agree with everything you said, but on the flip side, I do not see provocations like the GP getting flagged, which causes the exact same decay of the community that you are trying to avoid. So in the absence of moderation on those pushing his angle, I'm not sure what we the users are left to do other than push back? EDIT: Actually, I think this is where HN's lack of a universal downvote button is a weakness. Had th…

It doesn't cause the exact same decay because the original comment was about lots of things, whereas the response was just about the flamebait. The original comment was also about the article, whereas the response was a meta leap into flames of poison. That's a noticeable decay rate.

That said, the GP comment was also a bad post for HN and I've posted a scolding here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27373460.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by dang »

awillen wrote: post #14

There's just so much of this that is the author insisting that his preferences are right and anyone else is wrong. "Modern music is like junk food." There's amazing modern music, and total crap. Labeling the millions of hours of modern music as all bad is at best lazy, and at worst has undertones of racism (the only good music is that produced by dead white guys). "Let me tell you: regulating your emotions with an ex…

Please don't fulminate or post ranty dismissals of other people's work. It leads to shallow, dyspeptic conversation and worse (such as the utterly lame flamewar https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27370883, which you provoked) and we're hoping for something different than that here.

On HN idea the idea is to post out of curiosity and intellectual interest. If one article doesn't engage your curiosity, perhaps another will. Annoyances are best left where you encountered them, rather than hauled into the HN threads.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: it unfortunately looks like you've been posting in the flamewar style repeatedly lately. Could you please not do that? It's destructive of everything we're trying for here. You've posted substantive, curious comments in the past, which is great; if you'd stick to that in the future, we'd be grateful.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by dang »

unethical_ban wrote: post #113
dang wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, and especially not on generic ideological flamewar tangents: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... . I know the GP contained a provocation, but that's no reason to single it out, pour fuel on it, and light it on fire. When you do that, you seriously damage this place. The intended spirit of HN is curiosity (specifically intellectual curiosi…

Preface: I know you act in good faith. I don't think it's fair to let one person call people racist for being snooty about classical music, but lecture the person who finds that offensive and inappropriate on its own.

It's not possible for moderation to be perfectly consistent. For one thing we don't come close to seeing all the posts, and we can't even read the ones we do see particularly closely. There's just far too much content.

I've taken a closer look and agree that the originating comment was also bad, and have posted a reply up there now.

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by maininformer »

JohnWhigham wrote: post #78
awillen wrote: post #18

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I exercise for my blood pressure (you might've caught that in the comment you were responding to), but thanks for the suggestion! He specifically says classical music is the only acceptable kind, and the vast majority of the history of classical music was devoid of non-white people. You should read the things you're responding to a little better - it'll do wonders for your comprehension.

the vast majority of the history of classical music was devoid of non-white people. But it's a disingenuous (and sadly all-too-common) leap to conclude they're racist. People like different things. Get over it.

Amen

Re: Stop overstimulating your mind with digital entertainment

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Post by [deleted] »

krapp wrote: post #52
burnished wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even recent music history is steeped in racism. Its not imagining racism to notice that some peoples views and tastes 'just happen' to only include white people.

See: Music Theory and White Supremacy by Adam Neely[0] [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr3quGh7pJA The TL;DR for people who will be immediately triggered by the title and not bother to view is that Western music theory was intentionally designed around white supremacist ideals. It is exclusionary of the ideas and contributions of non-European cultures, and purposely so, as it deems them inferior.

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