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Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by vickychijwani »

kuba-orlik wrote: post #84

What I really like about Phabricator as a review tool: * keyboard shortcuts to navigate through the changes * ability to add a comment to multiple lines of code * ability to suggest changes inline * comments are saved as I type them, so an accidental tab close saves my work * comments are submitted in batches when I choose to, not one-by-one after saving each one. Its's sooo useful, because it often happens that I as…

I think Gerrit does most/all of this, like kb shortcuts, saving drafts and posting comments in a batch.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by tored »

rachelbythebay wrote: post #18
nine_k wrote: post #13

To clarify: this applies not just to phabricator-dot-com, but Phabricator the software: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/commit/9ceb66453501... This is unexpected. Many companies, among them as well-resourced as Facebook, use Phabricator. I wonder if it will be forked soon by some party interested in keeping it around. OTOH it looks like none such party exists, because the public sources have not been updated…

FB's phabricator went its own way long ago. I imagine this has exactly zero impact on their day to day. Put it this way: the last time I saw it, they still had the "clowncopterize" button. Try finding that anywhere else.

What I remember of Phabricator when I used it years ago was the very confusing naming of things, that didn't improve the user experience. It did have a nice command line tool to help you in your workflow.

I think Phabricator's heyday was during a time when everyone was trying to formalize their workflow, another project of that time was git flow.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by addicted »

woleium wrote: post #27
saurik wrote: post #7

Phabricator had seemed to be the only good product in this space when I had looked; what are people even using instead? (I guess they just put up with GitHub :/.)

gitlab is good and can still be self hosted

Yes but unfortunately Gitlab’s choice of features that go into the non free vs the open source version seem increasingly designed to deter use of the open source version.

Even on installing the self hosted Gitlab, the open source version is hidden, with the free yet closed source version being pushed.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by kqr »

user5994461 wrote: post #105

I find the announcement confusing. Is the company shutting down? Existing instances will continue running "indefinitely". How can a company be shutdown and promise to run forever at the same time? How does this affect phabricator on premise and phabricator online? The 1st of June is tomorrow, today is a week end. This is a zero day notice for users, including paying users. Hope you weren't planning to start a new pro…

Indefinitely does not mean forever, it just means without a specified end date.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by IshKebab »

im3w1l wrote: post #78
ericbarrett wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

epriestly has a weird sense of humor. The "trials" were probably sending him a friendly email. (I worked at FB at the same time as him)

Maybe, but I could also see it deterring would-be contributors.

I think it was to encourage companies to sign up for support accounts. You can't even comment on issues without one.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by IshKebab »

I wonder if this will be good for Phabricator. The commercialisation / support model made it basically impossible to contribute code to (or at least enough of a pain that only the most determined people would bother). If a community fork emerges we might see more contributions.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by lima »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #80
kemayo wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that JoshTriplett is complaining about the `amend` workflow required to update a single gerrit patch with revisions. If you're used to the GitHub pull request style, you'd be more likely to make a small commit and add it to the request. In gerrit that approach results in a separate patch for review, which isn't what such a person would want. (Personally, I've come to appreciate gerrit's model for strongly e…

That's part of it. But also, if you start with a 4-patch series, and you want to publish a v2 that's changed to a 3-patch series, Gerrit doesn't seem to handle that very well. In general, I'd prefer if patches are kept together in one review, rather than a separate review for each.

Gerrit handles this perfectly - you can just add the third commit to your stack (and even amend the earlier ones) and it works as expected, adding it to the relation chain.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by aidenn0 »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #42
nine_k wrote: post #13

To clarify: this applies not just to phabricator-dot-com, but Phabricator the software: https://github.com/phacility/phabricator/commit/9ceb66453501... This is unexpected. Many companies, among them as well-resourced as Facebook, use Phabricator. I wonder if it will be forked soon by some party interested in keeping it around. OTOH it looks like none such party exists, because the public sources have not been updated…

> Phabricator should be reasonably easy to self-host anyway. It's a bit of a mixed bag compared to other self-hostable applications. There are a lot of moving parts, and the initial setup requires 60 different unique databases. It has a handful of background daemon-like processes that occasionally get wedged. But, overall, there are some really interesting pieces of architecture in it, it's a really big project, and…

5-10ish years ago I stood up both gitlab and phabricator. The latter was much easier. I really, really liked phabricator, though much of it's advantages went away when using DVCS; for SVN, it's command line tools were just a joy to use by comparison.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by frabbit »

kuba-orlik wrote: post #84

What I really like about Phabricator as a review tool: * keyboard shortcuts to navigate through the changes * ability to add a comment to multiple lines of code * ability to suggest changes inline * comments are saved as I type them, so an accidental tab close saves my work * comments are submitted in batches when I choose to, not one-by-one after saving each one. Its's sooo useful, because it often happens that I as…

Gitlab (as of 11.something) has lots of nice keyboard shortcuts including search projects, searching merges, searching particular files etc. Comments are saved as you type. You can submit a review ith all your comments in one go.

I have not tried multiline or inline comments or changes.

The main differentiator between self-hosted and enterprise seems to be w.r.t. auditing capabilities.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

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Post by boleary-gl »

ognarb wrote: post #52
solarkraft wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE has been in the process switching away (to Gitlab) for a while.

Yeah, we already switch to Gitlab for code review. But the task management utility in Phabricator are far superior to Gitlab, so it's a bit complicated to switch to Gitlab for now. There has been three big reasons why we are trying to switch from phab to Gitlab: * Upstream wasn't very interested in external contributions or hearing our suggestions * arcanist was a real pita to use for new contributors. Switching to g…

GitLab team member here.

What are biggest task management features from Phabricator you don’t find in GitLab?

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