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Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by Fomite »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #91
reacharavindh wrote: post #33

Interesting to read this here. When my son was born (naturally, normal weight, fully healthy, and around expected due date), the midwife in Denmark had educated us about the Danish way of handling the birth - as soon as the baby comes out, they literally put the baby on mom’s chest, and leave us(parents, and baby) alone in the room for about an hour. Nothing needs to be done other than the baby being in care of it’s…

The U.S. experience used to be this way, but about 100 years ago the medical industry realized they could make a lot of money off of child birth (our last bill was $40k). The hospitals released advertisements scaring women from voodoo (read: black) women/midwives helping with birth so that doctors and surgeons could take over, it worked fantastically. The doctors eventually chained women to beds and tested various ch…

There is no "U.S. experience" because of the absolute mess of our healthcare system. There are birthing centers that work very much like the process described above.

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by prionassembly »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #77
prionassembly wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You pay for a nurse or aide to be ready to intervene if there’s an issue in a post-caesarean situation. We had a pediatrician in the room (which is also a perfectly opportunistic for the ob/gyn to score a referral). OR theater was main OB/GYN (which we chose), his assistant (also ob/gyn, younger and oddly published), anesthesiologist, instruments clerk and pediatrician. I don't think we had a nurse at all.

>We had a pediatrician in the room (which is also a perfectly opportunistic for the ob/gyn to score a referral) Can you clarify what you are implying here? Kickbacks or other financial incentives are generally pretty illegal.

Sure, but recommendation based on friendship is not, nor does it need to be unethical if you're convinced of your friend's high level of skill.

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by cycrutchfield »

prionassembly wrote: post #112
cycrutchfield wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We had a pediatrician in the room (which is also a perfectly opportunistic for the ob/gyn to score a referral) Can you clarify what you are implying here? Kickbacks or other financial incentives are generally pretty illegal.

Sure, but recommendation based on friendship is not, nor does it need to be unethical if you're convinced of your friend's high level of skill.

Got it, thanks for explaining. The phrase “score a referral” made it sound like there was some untoward relationship there.

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by klipt »

reacharavindh wrote: post #33

Interesting to read this here. When my son was born (naturally, normal weight, fully healthy, and around expected due date), the midwife in Denmark had educated us about the Danish way of handling the birth - as soon as the baby comes out, they literally put the baby on mom’s chest, and leave us(parents, and baby) alone in the room for about an hour. Nothing needs to be done other than the baby being in care of it’s…

> Childbirth is handled by midwives (Jordemothers) instead of doctors.

Is midwife a female-only profession or are there male midwives too?

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by stickfigure »

afavour wrote: post #104
recursive wrote: post #85

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Have you heard about hotels? They bill me for a full day, and barely even communicate with me all night long?

When you stay at a hotel do you receive a specific line-item in your bill for being time spent lying in bed with your partner?

I'm pretty sure there are places in rural Nevada that work exactly like that.

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by quux »

reacharavindh wrote: post #33

Interesting to read this here. When my son was born (naturally, normal weight, fully healthy, and around expected due date), the midwife in Denmark had educated us about the Danish way of handling the birth - as soon as the baby comes out, they literally put the baby on mom’s chest, and leave us(parents, and baby) alone in the room for about an hour. Nothing needs to be done other than the baby being in care of it’s…

Do they assist in cutting the umbilical cord and delivering the placenta before leaving the parents and baby alone?

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by mattlondon »

reacharavindh wrote: post #33

Interesting to read this here. When my son was born (naturally, normal weight, fully healthy, and around expected due date), the midwife in Denmark had educated us about the Danish way of handling the birth - as soon as the baby comes out, they literally put the baby on mom’s chest, and leave us(parents, and baby) alone in the room for about an hour. Nothing needs to be done other than the baby being in care of it’s…

Same in the UK. Literally immediately as the kid came out he was on my wife's chest... umbilical still connected and everything.

They banged on and on about the importance of "skin on skin" in all the ante-natal stuff. Even for the father they say skin on skin is beneficial. Apparently it promotes oxytocin for both parties.

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by chaps »

afavour wrote: post #69
syntaxing wrote: post #46

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I’m in the US and most hospital does the same now. They call it the golden hour where it’s just an hour of skin to skin just like you mentioned with no baby health routine until after such.

...and despite it being essentially a time period where the hospital leaves you alone, you still get billed for it.

Why is this getting downvoted? They bill for this specifically. This isn't the same thing as a damn hotel.. this site, I swear..

Re: Immediate skin-to-skin contact with unstable newborns improves survival chances

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Post by carlmr »

reacharavindh wrote: post #110
swman wrote: post #100

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I resonate with #4. I'm in US, so healthcare is tied to employer. My first job ever paid 12/hr and I did not have health care and it was a part time job, so I'm glad I could rely on my mother's health insurance until age 26 (thanks Obama). I got my first "real" job after spending a year trying to find a full time job after graduating college, during which I was working that 12/hr job. Even at the new job which paid 8…

I am very sorry for what you went through. I lived in the US for 6 years, and worked at above average tech company and had excellent healthcare benefits through employer. I must admit it blinds people to say "country's messed up healthcare system is not my problem" because my employer took care of it :-( Before my move to Europe, I risked living in the US for a month without health Insurance, and I was very anxious a…

>it blinds people to say "country's messed up healthcare system is not my problem" because my employer took care of it :-(

This is something I never understood. If your employer is in power of your health insurance, how free are you?

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