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Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by slacka »

GuB-42 wrote: post #49
jandrese wrote: post #16

While this is too simple (even the website admits that a bot could be written in virtually no time to break it), it does make me wonder if you could have a WarioWare CAPCHA. A minigame with extremely vague description that you have to react to quickly to pass. Thinking about it some more it fails the primary criteria for a CAPCHA: it needs to be harder to write the bot that cracks it than each test case, by at least…

It mostly depends on what you are trying to protect with your CAPTCHA. When I managed a small phpbb forum, all I had to do was to change a few lines in the register page to make it non-standard and it stopped all bots. Better than the built-in CAPTCHA. Simply, no one cared enough about our forum to write a specialized tool, no matter how easy it was. If it is all you have to protect, go ahead with your clever ideas,…

I can confirm that just a simple modification to the standard registration form keeps out all bot spammers. If your forum or bug tracker is small enough, that will eliminate all spam. The built-in spam countermeasures like CAPTCHA's seemed worthless from my experience.

Re: DOOM Captcha

#113

Post by sillysaurusx »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #104
sillysaurusx wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Minecraft is devilishly hard for reinforcement learning. You could have a captcha like "build a neat-looking fortress to prove you're human."

How do you validate whether the fortress was “neat-looking”?

You could train a classifier on all neat looking fortresses, then run outputs through the classifier. But you'd measure the cosine similarity to all previously-seen activations, and discard any that are too similar -- thus making sure that people need to come up with unique neat-looking fortresses.

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Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by supernova87a »

I know it's a bit of fun and kind of a joke.... but, makes me wonder:

What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests) that the technology "have nots" human beings of our world will not even be able to prove they're human any more?

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by _f9cu »

supernova87a wrote: post #114

I know it's a bit of fun and kind of a joke.... but, makes me wonder: What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests) that the technology "have nots" human beings of our world will not even be able to prove they're human any more?

Will not happen. Machines are problem solvers not problem creators unlike humans.

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by xkjyeah »

_f9cu wrote: post #115
supernova87a wrote: post #114

I know it's a bit of fun and kind of a joke.... but, makes me wonder: What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests) that the technology "have nots" human beings of our world will not even be able to prove they're human any more?

Will not happen. Machines are problem solvers not problem creators unlike humans.

exactly. Captchas should just ask the user to design... CAPTCHAS

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by sodality2 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #106
robertlagrant wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good idea! To prove you are a human, mine three Bitcoin.

Why not something computationally expensive? Bcrypt this value 10000 times to continue

Ideally you'd have something that's hard for the client but easy for the server to verify, though. so maybe prime factoring?

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by shvedsky »

supernova87a wrote: post #114

I know it's a bit of fun and kind of a joke.... but, makes me wonder: What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests) that the technology "have nots" human beings of our world will not even be able to prove they're human any more?

Maybe the tests will move from requiring some precise correct answer to instead requiring randomness that machines can't yet generate. It would be similar to the captcha that asks you to click inside a box and analysis not the answer but how you do it.

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by imron »

supernova87a wrote: post #114

I know it's a bit of fun and kind of a joke.... but, makes me wonder: What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests) that the technology "have nots" human beings of our world will not even be able to prove they're human any more?

> What will happen some day when solvers and bots get so smart and human-like (and the CAPTCHAs evolving to keep up, with harder and harder tests)

Mission accomplished https://xkcd.com/810/

Re: DOOM Captcha

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Post by zzt123 »

slacka wrote: post #111
GuB-42 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It mostly depends on what you are trying to protect with your CAPTCHA. When I managed a small phpbb forum, all I had to do was to change a few lines in the register page to make it non-standard and it stopped all bots. Better than the built-in CAPTCHA. Simply, no one cared enough about our forum to write a specialized tool, no matter how easy it was. If it is all you have to protect, go ahead with your clever ideas,…

I can confirm that just a simple modification to the standard registration form keeps out all bot spammers. If your forum or bug tracker is small enough, that will eliminate all spam. The built-in spam countermeasures like CAPTCHA's seemed worthless from my experience.

Small enough being the operative word, since it only takes one person to write an OpenBullet config for that form.
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