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Switching from Mailchimp to open-source Mailtrain and AWS SES

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Re: Switching from Mailchimp to open-source Mailtrain and AWS SES

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Sadly, this says more about how broken GMail now is than anything else. Real Soon Now(TM), the tech community needs to start a serious campaign to shame and isolate email providers that do not reliably deliver legitimate emails, regardless of how high profile they are. It probably needs meaningful government/regulator backing to get anywhere. The odd false positive on spam/malware filtering is understandable, it's no…

It's more about how broken email is, gmail does what it does because they have to deal with the broken ecosystem of spammers and spoofers.

I don't really buy that excuse any more. This is a business that wants to have heavy, fast-moving objects automatically navigating complex and unpredictable transport networks using its software. For that matter, this is a business whose golden goose is prioritising content people most want to see on the scale of the entire WWW, which has no shortage of junk sites that exist primarily to game the system. I'm reasonably sure that same business can be smarter about spam recognition than defaulting to assuming new mail from a source it hasn't seen before is bad, which seems close to the practical output of its existing system. But as with so many of the current dominant tech businesses, until someone poses a credible threat to its existing business model and revenue streams, it has no reason to invest in fixing problems even if it could obviously do better.

Re: Switching from Mailchimp to open-source Mailtrain and AWS SES

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The problem I find quite often with a lot of these tools is that whilst it's using AWS SES to do the sending it can be a bit cumbersome or sometimes not at all possible to see which of your emails are being delivered, which are bouncing etc. There's some cool options out there like sesmonitor.com and sesdashboard.com which add that extra layer

Re: Switching from Mailchimp to open-source Mailtrain and AWS SES

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Mail chimp stores it’s data in the us and German courts found that it breached GDPR because of US spy laws.

Wasn't that just the latest iteration of "EU pretends no other country in the world has similar national security laws to its own member states", under which multiple EU-US agreements on data sharing have already been struck down and technically any EU business probably can't use any US-based service ever if that involves sharing of personal data? Did this one get to the end of the process and result in a real fine o…

> Did this one get to the end of the process and result in a real fine or other penalty?

It did end with a judgement that it was in breach but the court didn't fine the company because they barely used Mailchimp and they stopped using it before it got to trial.

Re: Switching from Mailchimp to open-source Mailtrain and AWS SES

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I have seen far too many articles of these types. As someone who has sent billions of emails I can tell you the following. 1. SES is shit. 2. Value of mailchimp is not in its interface. It is in mail deliverability. Use at least sendgrid.

Can you elaborate on why SES is shit? I've been using it for about 6 months now to run a small newsletter and haven't experienced any issues with deliverability.

We sent few million emails using SES over few weeks, Sendgrid's deliverability was around 12 times better than that of SES.

Don't get me wrong, it might be perfectly fine choice for smaller projects but it is not a solution you would rely for scale. You have to build your own mailservers with warmed up IPs.

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