> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
A lot of the “Ruby on Rails with Textmate” crowd came from Java where you used full IDEs (in addition to the LAMP developers who were not using IDEs).
> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
I used IDEs and stopped. In fact I wish IDEs would work, that’s how I started with QBASIC and later Visual Basic. But as soon as you step out of playground level programming, IDEs are never on their happy path.
> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
Not to drag on the OP but I really wonder about people who are the subject of these articles who supposedly migrate from x to y to z, because at least for me I'm still using emacs like I did 10 years ago. The things I focus on is more about doing work than what tool I'm using. Do people really migrate or is this more about growth in a user-base? A higher rate of growth of one user-base relative to another user-base i…
Exactly. I'd guess that a majority of VS Code users are relatively new to programming. Not to say that there aren't experienced people who have switched, especially among the TextMate/Sublime Text crowd, but the incredible growth in users? I think that's largely a result of new programmers choosing the same editor, not old programmers switching.
> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
I used IDEs and stopped. In fact I wish IDEs would work, that’s how I started with QBASIC and later Visual Basic. But as soon as you step out of playground level programming, IDEs are never on their happy path.
> as soon as you step out of playground level programming
Uhh... pretty sure 99% of all complex JVM applications were written using an IDE.
In fact, if you joined an experienced team at a senior level and weren’t using IntelliJ, you’d be laughed out of there pretty quickly...
> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
Not to drag on the OP but I really wonder about people who are the subject of these articles who supposedly migrate from x to y to z, because at least for me I'm still using emacs like I did 10 years ago. The things I focus on is more about doing work than what tool I'm using. Do people really migrate or is this more about growth in a user-base? A higher rate of growth of one user-base relative to another user-base i…
> Visual Studio was “disrupted” by Sublime Text and TextMate, no it was not. people didn't migrate from VS to Sublime, they migrated from notepad++ to Sublime. I have never met anyone who stopped using IDEs once they started, except maybe for VSCode with a few hundred plug-ins to reconstruct an IDE piece-wise (but with much less "integration" between the different plug-ins)
Not to drag on the OP but I really wonder about people who are the subject of these articles who supposedly migrate from x to y to z, because at least for me I'm still using emacs like I did 10 years ago. The things I focus on is more about doing work than what tool I'm using. Do people really migrate or is this more about growth in a user-base? A higher rate of growth of one user-base relative to another user-base i…
The only significant scale of migration I have personally seen is from Visual Studio to VS Code. That was in a Microsoft shop moving to a browser based UI.
Personally I still use vi/vim for just about everything and use language specific IDEs for anything only tackled occasionally (I'm product manager not a developer) because IDEs reduce friction and increase my productivity. Recently started using Thonny as python IDE not because I'm a noob (20 years python coding) but it makes jumping into python code ad hoc effortless compared to pycharm or others.
YMMV
Not to drag on the OP but I really wonder about people who are the subject of these articles who supposedly migrate from x to y to z, because at least for me I'm still using emacs like I did 10 years ago. The things I focus on is more about doing work than what tool I'm using. Do people really migrate or is this more about growth in a user-base? A higher rate of growth of one user-base relative to another user-base i…
Exactly. I'd guess that a majority of VS Code users are relatively new to programming. Not to say that there aren't experienced people who have switched, especially among the TextMate/Sublime Text crowd, but the incredible growth in users? I think that's largely a result of new programmers choosing the same editor, not old programmers switching.
Don't know if I'm representative, but I've been using Visual Studio for C++ stuff for about 20 years and switched to "mostly VSCode" a few years ago. I guess the reason is that I never used more than 2..3% of Visual Studio's features. Some features in VSCode are a bit too bare bones (especially the debugger), but somehow the user interface makes a lot more sense to me, and most of the times it feels faster and more lightweight than Visual Studio (Visual Studio nowadays even shows a progress bar when loading a project).
I have never used Jira, could you say more about your feelings towards it? Currently we use an old in-house solution and are thinking of shifting.
The biggest issue by far is how slow it is. I don't mean bubble sort slow, I mean deliberately engineered quantum bogosort. A cache-less refresh for me on a blazing fast dev machine takes between 3-10 minutes on a normal day, though it might only take 1m if the internet gods are feeling particularly merciful. That leads to all sorts of avoidance because using it for anything takes long enough to be worth documenting…
I assume your workplace is using the cloud solution?
Our huge-enterprise in-house install is blazing fast, as long as nobody misconfigures some automation tool to overload the database.
Edit: I did have the bad luck to discover it performs pretty horribly if you’re on a high-latency connection to the office. I think it makes a lot of round-trip requests.
Good games should be easy to approach and difficult to master . Good tools should be easy to approach with the ability to customize and do more advanced actions, but never difficult Good tools and products encapsulate complexity but still allow access to it where needed. Good tools aim to simplify complexity, not complexify simplicity. Good engineers and product people make tools that aim to simplify. Make it approac…
I like what Douglas Engelbart said about good tools (paraphrasing): if you use a tool the same way on the 1st day you acquired it and a year later - it's not a good tool.
Which I feel a lot of modern software struggles to provide. Sure I can onboard quickly and do _something_ but if I'm spending hundreds of hours I want to get better at it and improve my returns.
> Everything for the next few years will slowly fade in as you scroll. I don’t know why.
I don’t understand why either. Does fade-in make a webpage more aesthetically pleasing? Or serve a functional purpose like improving readability or increasing conversion? To me it distracts from understanding the content and can even lead to janky rendering when implemented poorly.