I just hope they made unbreakable hinges
Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
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#112This is really a great idea. I hope your company succeeds. I would buy it just for the blank ISO keyboard. I hope you also add shipping from the EU. BTW. Why does the Enter key look so strange?
> Why does the Enter key look so strange?
It looks like a design some other laptops use, with the top enclosure cut to fit both ANSI (horizontal) and ISO (vertical) enter keys, so there's no silver metal case between the enter key and the one next to it, just dark plastic from the keyboard.
Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#113Can I get it without Windows please and save the licence fee for something I'll never use?
It's possible, when pre-ordering the DIY one there's a "bring your own" operating system option.
That's too bad they don't talk about this DIY pre-order option that allows to customize a lot of things.
They even say they support Linux, which is a great selling point.
Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#114Seems very expensive
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#115Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#116I hope the hinges are of good quality and can be easily replaced, my two last had massive hinge issues, and replacing them is no easy task.
Probably part of planned obsolescence, they any other part would ruin manufacturer reputation, let say if you loose data etc.
Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#117Echoing the other feedback here--I thought it would be cheaper too. The DIY edition where you have to bring your own components is at least double the price of a slightly slower laptop with RAM and storage included. I was expecting the DIY to start at $300-400, the current price point is far too high for unproven build quality.
The price point seems fine to me. These systems are for professionals, so they're competing with MacBook Pro, not budget vendors. The same should apply to Pine64 and Purism, though they might not realize it yet.
Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#118The keyboard makes this a no-go for me, though I'm hoping they will be releasing additional versions? And I'm not talking about ANSI/ISO or internationalization (which they will be releasing), I'm talking about the lack of page up/down keys, the arrow keys, the lack of dedicated home/insert/end keys. These all fit comfortably on my X230 (which is smaller), and on my T470 (which is bigger, but has ~4cm to spare).
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#119Can't wait to watch some product reviews. That and full Linux support - until then my Pinebook Pro does almost everything I need. Not the fastest but more devs should use lower spec hardware.
Why should they?
If you design for slow hardware it will sure as hell work well on fast hardware. If things become unbearably slow on your slow hardware however, you're closer to actual user experience and will notice this earlier. Long story short, using slow or bad hardware helps detecting performance and usability issues earlier.
Re: Framework Laptop pre-orders are open, starting at $999
#120Can't wait to watch some product reviews. That and full Linux support - until then my Pinebook Pro does almost everything I need. Not the fastest but more devs should use lower spec hardware.
Why should they?
I have a coworker that always preaches testing on bad hardware. Sometimes it catches multi threaded issues, like if you arent locking correctly and use a resource before its generated. Other than that it helps ensure that you are squeezing more performance out of the software rather than relying on fast hardware. I think this sentiment comes after dealing with a ton of chromium apps that can be resource hogs. Presumably they are developed on machines with tons of resources then forced onto my dev machine and still use tons of resource that I need to write my own stuff. Personally I dont care too much, if the software has performance critical requirements, it should be thoroughly tested in some pipeline not my machine.