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YouTube is a net loss ? Where is that coming from ? It brought in $6BN revenue just in Q1 [1]. [1] https://abc.xyz/investor/static/pdf/2021Q1_alphabet_earnings...
“Revenue” is not the same as “profit” https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/google-still-isnt-telling-us...
Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
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Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#112Microsoft eyeing Yahoo (buyout) deal! - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19336 - May 2007 (25 comments)
Microsoft offers to buy Yahoo in $44.6 billion deal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107770 - Feb 2008 (3 comments)
Microsoft bids $44.6 billion for Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107771 - Feb 2008 (80 comments)
WOW. Microsoft Offers $44.6 Billion To Acquire Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107772 - Feb 2008 (2 comments)
Open-source silver lining in Microsoft's wedding vow to Yahoo? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=107874 - Feb 2008 (4 comments)
Yahoo-Microsoft merger bad news for startups? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108099 - Feb 2008 (4 comments)
Source: Yahoo employees say "there is no way in hell that we are going to work for Microsoft." - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108391 - Feb 2008 (6 comments)
Non-obvious winners and losers in Microsoft Yahoo Deal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108531 - Feb 2008 (1 comment)
Why Microsoft Acquiring Yahoo Could Suck For Everybody - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108769 - Feb 2008 (7 comments)
Google's Chief Legal Officer on Microsoft's acquisition of Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108824 - Feb 2008 (5 comments)
Why Yahoo Should Say Yes To Microsoft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108873 - Feb 2008 (8 comments)
Google Offers to Help Yahoo Fight Off Microsoft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=108949 - Feb 2008 (2 comments)
Google works to torpedo Microsoft bid for Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=109346 - Feb 2008 (4 comments)
Silicon Valley after a Microsoft/Yahoo merger: a contrarian view - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=109612 - Feb 2008 (12 comments)
Redeye VC: Microsoft/Yahoo - let the exodus begin - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=110366 - Feb 2008 (8 comments)
Microsoft Adversary Rises Instinctively at Yahoo Bid - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=110392 - Feb 2008 (1 comment)
Microsoft Bid for Yahoo Drops To $29.50 a Share - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=110584 - Feb 2008 (1 comment)
My Opinion: Google wants Microsoft to buy Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=112444 - Feb 2008 (3 comments)
Yahoo Board To Reject Microsoft Offer - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=112749 - Feb 2008 (44 comments)
Microsoft is 2000 times less effective than Google; Yahoo Board seems to be insane - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=112841 - Feb 2008 (17 comments)
Yahoo protects employees in case of Microsoft takeover - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=120372 - Feb 2008 (6 comments)
Yahoo sued for spurning Microsoft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=122047 - Feb 2008 (19 comments)
Microsoft: Yahoo! has 3 weeks to decide - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=155833 - April 2008 (7 comments)
Yahoo tells Microsoft to increase $41B bid - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=156836 - April 2008 (10 comments)
The Yahoo!/Microsoft chess match continues: Yahoo! enters trial partnership with Google - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=159294 - April 2008 (6 comments)
Microsoft Said to Be Talking With News Corporation About Joint Yahoo Bid - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=159493 - April 2008 (3 comments)
Pmarca: If Microsoft goes fully hostile on Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=175477 - April 2008 (27 comments)
Microsoft Says They’ll Pay More, increasing Yahoo! bid to as much as $33/share (from $31/share) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=177816 - April 2008 (3 comments)
Microsoft Withdraws Yahoo Bid; Walks Away From Deal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=180517 - May 2008 (58 comments)
Yahoo shares fall 19.7 pct as Microsoft withdraws $44B bid - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=181422 - May 2008 (5 comments)
How Yahoo Blew the Microsoft Deal: Part 1 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=181885 - May 2008 (1 comment)
Battered Yahoo Admits It Overplayed Hand; Open To New Microsoft Talks - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=182085 - May 2008 (36 comments)
Why isn't anyone writing about Yahoo's amazing stock gains and Microsoft's plunge? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=182259 - May 2008 (5 comments)
Yahoo, Microsoft Back At The Table - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=193615 - May 2008 (10 comments)
Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, and Facebook: War of the Worlds II - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=194101 - May 2008 (2 comments)
What Yahoo doesn’t want you to know about the Microsoft deal - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=208276 - June 2008 (2 comments)
Why Yahoo Passed On Microsoft's Search Deal (New Details!) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=217178 - June 2008 (1 comment)
Microsoft Signals It Would Rather Talk To An Icahn-Controlled Yahoo - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=238583 - July 2008 (3 comments)
Yahoo spurns Microsoft again as blood boils - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=245059 - July 2008 (4 comments)
Yahoo tells Microsoft: 'Buy us' - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=355531 - Nov 2008 (19 comments)
Microsoft rules out Yahoo acquisition (again) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=356526 - Nov 2008 (4 comments)
Why Microsoft Should Bid Again — and Yahoo Should Accept - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=369671 - Nov 2008 (1 comment)
Microsoft Poaches Yahoo's Top Search Engineer; "the end of Yahoo search." - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=369908 - Nov 2008 (21 comments)
Why Microsoft should forget about Yahoo and buy Palm - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=442003 - Jan 2009 (18 comments)
Microsoft-Yahoo Deal Struck, Will Be Announced Within Next 24 Hours - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=729152 - July 2009 (22 comments)
Microsoft and Yahoo Reach Agreement on Search - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=729823 - July 2009 (24 comments)
Microsoft looking to buy Yahoo again - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3270790 - Nov 2011 (38 comments)
Yahoo Shares Top $31, The Price Microsoft Offered In 2008 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6414838 - Sept 2013 (49 comments)
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#113I worked at Yahoo! when this was going on, I’m amazed the share holders didn’t sue Jerry Yang and the board for avoiding this sale. Yahoo had very little of technological value and was actively trying to destroy its own search business amongst other properties at the time. They really were in a prime position and bungled it extremely badly, I think they had maybe 20% of the search market at the time. Carol Bartz late…
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except for Amazon, that would still be extremely successful without AWS, the others had their original business model disrupted. So far Google still have a stronghold on search, they've been able to secure it with Android and Chrome by controlling the devices, they seem to be doing fine.
Android (profit of $23 billion from 2010-2016) hasn’t really done that great for Google. They still have to pay Apple a reported $12 billion a year+ to be the default search engine for iOS devices. Apple’s business model has always been to sell “computers” at high margins. They had record Mac revenues last quarter. All of their other devices are just computers with different form factors running a variant of the same…
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#115I worked at Yahoo! when this was going on, I’m amazed the share holders didn’t sue Jerry Yang and the board for avoiding this sale. Yahoo had very little of technological value and was actively trying to destroy its own search business amongst other properties at the time. They really were in a prime position and bungled it extremely badly, I think they had maybe 20% of the search market at the time. Carol Bartz late…
Also remember at that time that Google, MSN, and Yahoo were the three major search engines at that time. It wasn't clear why Yahoo couldn't close on the #1 spot. It had the clear #1 search engine spot in Japan already. The Yahoo properties (combination of all their websites) was the most popular websites on the internet. They had a much stronger machine learning and data mining research lab, one year bragging that they swept all the best paper awards at the ML/DM computer science conferences.
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
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Inktomi, Altavista, AllTheWeb, all later under Yahoo. No question about the "feel", but it's amazing how perception fuels reality. We did a lot of studies of this, and one of the more interesting ones was that if you told people they were seeing Google search results (regardless if they were), they'd be more inclined to rewrite their queries and look farther down in the search results, rather than try using another s…
We did a lot of studies of this, and one of the more interesting ones was that if you told people they were seeing Google search results This is super-interesting; where might one read more about these studies? Also, when were the studies done? I'm curious about the "when" because I think Google's reputation has slipped quite a bit.
In general though, consumer confirmation bias is not that surprising, right? Particularly with technology brands, it's pretty well established that confidence in the brand leads one to be more likely to attribute failure to one's own "mistakes" and therefore invest in further exploration of the product and/or modifying one's interactions with it. It also diminishes one's belief that another product would produce better results, therefore diminishing interest in exploring alternatives; it also leads one to perceive a product's performance as "better" when it is exactly the same.
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#117I worked at Yahoo! when this was going on, I’m amazed the share holders didn’t sue Jerry Yang and the board for avoiding this sale. Yahoo had very little of technological value and was actively trying to destroy its own search business amongst other properties at the time. They really were in a prime position and bungled it extremely badly, I think they had maybe 20% of the search market at the time. Carol Bartz late…
Even if you worked there, you may not have been aware of the fact that Yahoo already had an investment in a still small, but exponentially growing ecommerce startup in China, or that part of the reason the deal fell apart was because of a difference in opinion over how to value that asset.
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m a bit confused at what Bartz’ strategy was? If she deinvested in search, where did she expect Yahoo to succeed over Google?
I think it was in no small part about selling ads on Yahoo-owned media or through a Yahoo ad network.
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We just drank the cool aid and clicked "install". That's misrepresenting the search market's reality though. For most people, they never clicked install.
In 2008 there wasn't a need to click "install"? What OS were you on that provided Google Chrome seamlessly?
Re: Microsoft bids $44.6B to buy Yahoo (2008)
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Android (profit of $23 billion from 2010-2016) hasn’t really done that great for Google. They still have to pay Apple a reported $12 billion a year+ to be the default search engine for iOS devices. Apple’s business model has always been to sell “computers” at high margins. They had record Mac revenues last quarter. All of their other devices are just computers with different form factors running a variant of the same…
A primary benefit of Android is that Google is allowed to put their search engine on Android mobile devices for close to free instead of multiple billions of dollars.
How much are customers buying $200 phones worth to advertisers compared to customers paying 3 times as much?
Google also has to pay third party Android OEMs a share of search revenue.