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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by echelon »

Black101 wrote: post #99
pfraze wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are in fact reasons to distrust the Chinese state which have nothing to do with race.

What are those reasons?

Uyghur genocide, the Dalai Lama, Tibet, Hong Kong, Inner Mongolia, West Philippine Sea, Spratly Islands, Taiwan, Galwan Valley, Mekong River, Nepal, Laos, social credit, pervasive surveillance, Falun Gong persecution and organ harvesting (debated?), stealing tech, economic protectionism, ...

America does bad too, but we can't act like this state is any better. Some of the things they're doing to play catch up are appalling.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by interestica »

tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

Did anything come of this? All links I've found are from January 2020, and it seems that OPay is still available in the Google Play store.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by Black101 »

Sevastopol wrote: post #107
Black101 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are those reasons?

The Chinese government cannot be trusted. PRC-based companies are required to cooperate with the state intelligence apparatus. Not that much different in the US and the US-aligned world, but at least there is more transparency, open discussion, and defiance. All the reasons (privacy/spying, government unaccountability, etc.) that would make basing a tech company in the US bad are worse in China. It does seem, though,…

but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government? looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by Sevastopol »

Black101 wrote: post #113
Sevastopol wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese government cannot be trusted. PRC-based companies are required to cooperate with the state intelligence apparatus. Not that much different in the US and the US-aligned world, but at least there is more transparency, open discussion, and defiance. All the reasons (privacy/spying, government unaccountability, etc.) that would make basing a tech company in the US bad are worse in China. It does seem, though,…

but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government? looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue.

> but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government?

I said _cooperate_ (which means to assist someone or comply with their requests). I did not say Opera was operated by the Chinese government.

> looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue.

What I wrote might be confusing if someone did not know the definition of "cooperate", no fault.

An example of what "cooperation" with a state might look like: https://www.wired.com/2014/09/feds-yahoo-fine-prism/ -- https://archive.is/PsVTH . Or it might look like the various party cells within PRC-based companies.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by girvo »

easton wrote: post #109
fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to think about this sort of thing: interactive forms generated from OpenAPI specs? Some way to plug-in handlers for specific mime-types? etc.

This is the dream, honestly. Dynamic form creation from specs. PowerShell has something like it (for a function it will create you a ugly form that you can render), but if you could deliver a OpenAPI spec and have Bootstrap (or whatever) UI on the frontend automatically generated.

This is not quite what you mean, but I've used it before to decent success:

https://github.com/rjsf-team/react-jsonschema-form

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by betwixthewires »

walrus01 wrote: post #21
ketralnis wrote: post #18

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I'm not a blockchain fan but "somebody tried this once and it didn't work" is hardly a dismissal of an entire class of ideas. Beanz didn't catch on but bitcoin seems to have.

Not just 'somebody', but like a dozen different somebodies with many different methodologies. Getting an 'alternate root' DNS system trusted in any appreciable percentage of popular operating systems and web browsers, in a default out-of-the-box configuration, is a very hard problem to solve.

Yes, it is a very hard problem to solve. This is primarily because a 30 year old DNS system is entrenched into the infrastructure of the internet, it was not built to change and so implementing changes fights the network effect.

The only solution to this problem is brute force. The problem is a brick wall. The only way to get past it is to keep creating newer, adaptable naming systems and supporting them. Every attempt to create a domain registry system that is not centrally controlled I will support, even though most of them will fail.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by sirius87 »

Black101 wrote: post #113
Sevastopol wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Chinese government cannot be trusted. PRC-based companies are required to cooperate with the state intelligence apparatus. Not that much different in the US and the US-aligned world, but at least there is more transparency, open discussion, and defiance. All the reasons (privacy/spying, government unaccountability, etc.) that would make basing a tech company in the US bad are worse in China. It does seem, though,…

but is Opera operated by the Chinese Government? looks like it is from what you are saying but dang I have no clue.

They don't have to be fully operated by a govt in order to exert operational control in certain areas of interest.

We have seen this with Zoom: China-Based Executive at U.S. Telecommunications Company Charged with Disrupting Video Meetings Commemorating Tiananmen Square Massacre

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele...

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by betwixthewires »

doublerabbit wrote: post #55
walrus01 wrote: post #11

People have been trying to make alternate-root DNS systems a thing for 20+ years, it has never caught on.

What annoys me is that there is no easy way to change DNS servers. Try on IOS, or Android and you'll find it such a hassle being hidden within other scary network settings. Windows you need to click through five different features and not forgetting that DNS is an alien word to most. Try and explain it in the simplest of ways such as "a phone book for computers" you've just bored the subject to death I use OpenNIC an…

This is no joke. Changing the DNS server on Android is difficult for anyone that hasn't hacked android since it's early days. And it is getting more difficult. The fact that it is not an easily accessible setting is an indication that it is designed deliberately to disempower people.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by petre »

lifty wrote: post #37
jsmith99 wrote: post #15

More fragmentation. I use Nextdns for my router's DNS, which theoretically allows me to access any domains on the competing Handshake crypto protocol, but I've never actually some across any so far.

I really think that Handshake is the superior DNS root + PKI alternative, so hopefully more projects adopt it.

Is there an open source resolver and Handshake to DNS gw with caching?
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