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Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by throwawayboise » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:00 PM UTC

baybal2 wrote: post #98

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

You mention "poorly industrialised country" and then go on to list at least hundreds of dollars worth of equipment and supplies and access to a 200A 220V electrical service. A poor household in India has easy access to none of these resources.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by baybal2 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #106

baybal2 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

They don't need bulk oxygen generated ad-hoc. They need medical grade oxygen delivered in standard medical equipment that they can use in a controlled manner right away. Chemistry experiments won't solve this.

> They don't need bulk oxygen generated ad-hoc. They need medical grade oxygen delivered in standard medical equipment that they can use in a controlled manner right away.

Right now, I believe from reports on the ground, that they need just any oxygen to hold on for 2-3 more weeks.

First hand report I got is that LO2 tankers been all around on TV, but despite that all hospitals in the area been empty of oxygen for 3-4 weeks without any resupply coming in sight, and this is in one of richest cities in India.

> Chemistry experiments won't solve this.

Tell this to people about to die. You are so cynical. 1.5-2 kg of oxygen per hour should be enough to support 2 people. 20 at least 10.

The mess, depravity, and despair I heard is such that people have already tried just anything.

Zeolite has been sold out across India for a few weeks.

Hydrogen peroxide sold out.

Any chemical which can be used to produce oxygen chemically is out of stock.

People are already blowing themselves up, and causing blackouts by following Youtube voodoo science trying to make completely unsound electrolyzer designs.

You are not getting any "proper" oxygen concentrators coming any time soon with all of above.

This design is at least less of a voodoo science than ones telling people to breath brown gas.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by TheBill » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:03 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #106

baybal2 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

They don't need bulk oxygen generated ad-hoc. They need medical grade oxygen delivered in standard medical equipment that they can use in a controlled manner right away. Chemistry experiments won't solve this.

Go to a praxair in the states and ask what the difference is: tested to 5x9's and loaded into a vacuum pulled bottle. ANY O2 at pressure is suitable to for human consumption at the surface because ANY impurities that are actually harmful would explode at 200 bar. Anything else (say from a PSA nitrox generator) would only be things like Argon.

Ad hoc O2 is better than no O2.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by strategyanalyst » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:04 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

There is a lot of criticism of the government on social media right now. I'm not saying this government isn't trying to control criticism on social media, but these are small drops in an ocean of tweets and fb posts on this.

ResignModi has been trending on Twitter for days now. My FB feed is full of people angry at the government.

There is no 'censorship' of 99% of such posts. You can't really censor stuff in India, its way too big to control narrative that way.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by naruvimama » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:05 PM UTC

The democrats tried to stop critical raw materials for vaccine production in India. These are raw materials that the US itself did not need for its vaccine production.

They only relented after it was pointed out India was supplying critical raw materials for Pfizer.

India has been supplying vaccines to the wider world and prioritizing those in a crisis. Indian exports made up 80% of UN vaccine program for poorer countries.

It was only natural that we would expect the world to offer a hand when we are in a crisis.

Perhaps for once you can focus on exporting what we need instead of exporting your leftist hypocracy and hollow ideology.

For all the aloofness the US and EU have showed themselves to be the pettiest global players, not to mention Xitler the creator of the coronavirus.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by pax » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

asenna wrote: post #28

I've always wanted to ask the HN community about this problem, what exactly can be done from a technology standpoint? I feel we're already at a point where tools are available to make a censorship resistant social network. The main challenges would be: - Kickstarting a network is a difficult problem - A way to ensure sane content moderation (child porn / abuse, etc) while still keeping the decision-making decentraliz…

If just enough celebs could be convinced to adopt & evangelize a new platform.

The last time I remember being excited about a new social platform was Quora. I was quite amazed by the quality of answers in the early days. I wonder how they managed to gather their first settlers.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by lindy2021 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:11 PM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #109

lindy2021 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is on Biden's watch. Trump was berated for even contemplating deploying the National Guard as American cities burnt last summer.

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You're hand waving 25 deaths and >$2B damage as nothing major or life-disrupting.

Knowingly disingenuous or indoctrination? I can't tell.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by jimmydorry » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:18 PM UTC

throwawayboise wrote: post #111

baybal2 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you guys still need oxygen there? How is the situation there really? I called a few of my contacts, and get very diverging pictures. No interruptions in Kochi, to some stress in Hyderabad, Chennai, Bengaluru, to total apocalypse in Noida. I see oxygen production being such a basic industrial process, that I never could've imagined even a most poorly industrialised country having troubles producing it. It's tragic…

You mention "poorly industrialised country" and then go on to list at least hundreds of dollars worth of equipment and supplies and access to a 200A 220V electrical service. A poor household in India has easy access to none of these resources.

The thrust of the comment is helpful though as it's the hospitals that have run out of oxygen and facing prospective multi-week deficits of oxygen.

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by 1024core » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:19 PM UTC

amrrs wrote: post #4

Indian Government recently made Twitter do similar things. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/26/twitter-under-... Do you know what's worst? A guy was booked yesterday for Tweeting he needed oxygen cylinders which according to a state government is spreading fake news. https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... While COVID hasn't been kind to the people of India, The current regime's atte…

Did you read that article? The guy's grandpa did not need oxygen, but died of a heart attack instead.

During this time of crisis, it's common for governments to crack down on speech. You've heard of the "shouting 'FIRE' in a crowded movie hall" analogy, right?

Re: Facebook ‘looking into’ hiding of posts calling for PM’s resignation in India

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Post by president » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 10:27 PM UTC

Whether you think it is good or bad, Facebook is going to abide by "local laws and regulations". Why risk getting kicked out of the country and lose money? Unfortunate but most of us know that corporations value money over morals, despite what their PR departments may say.