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Re: Vaccine Hesitancy for Covid-19: State, County, and Local Estimates

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Post by throwaway0a5e » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 11:41 PM UTC

alamortsubite wrote: post #68

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #54

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Demand is high because all the low risk people in healthcare (and all the other industries that got priority) got in line right away and are/were competing with the high risk people and seniors. Basically we dumped a ton of volume into the vaccination funnel from the get go (because we were vaccinating such a wide range of people so early on because of the employment based qualification criteria) so while there was a…

Vaccinating healthcare workers first makes perfect sense when you're dealing with a virus that has the potential to overwhelm your healthcare capacity.

Nobody said it didn't make sense. People just don't like explanations other than Masshole Exceptionalism for why MA has the best vaccination rate.

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Post by jwilber » Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 11:54 PM UTC

ultimoo wrote: post #15

jwilber wrote: post #6

As someone who moved from Seattle to San Diego recently, I am happy to see both areas doing very well with regards to vaccine hesitancy! Having grown up in San Diego, I actually find it somewhat surprising how low the hesitancy is.

Why are you surprised at San Diego? I know very little about the culture there so I'm curious

Because San Diego leans right, and current conservatives are more likely to be anti-vaccine [0]. (This is interesting in and of itself, as in previous years, California’s antivax tended to be rich and liberal. Times change!)

Downvoting won’t change this!

[0] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-41-percent-of-republic...

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Post by spaetzleesser » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 2:43 AM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #37

spaetzleesser wrote: post #21

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There are a lot of military and right-wingers in the San Diego area.

Until recently anti-vacccine was more a left wing thing. (it always has cut across the political spectrum)

Anti-vaxxers have traditionally been left wing but it seems that COVID has attracted many from the right wing to be anti-vaccine.

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Post by ianai » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 4:54 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #79

ianai wrote: post #72

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Last I heard, pets were still a one in a million or smaller likelihood. Doesn’t seem a likely place for a disease to bounce around long term. The unvaccinated population is the far greater problem.

Probably. My point is that even 100% vaccination won't fully stop it since there are other carriers in the environment. They slaughtered a bunch of minks due to infection, so I would imagine there are other reservoirs out there (wild weasels, pet ferrets, some other species). After all, one theory is this virus got it's start though human-animal contact.

Thinking of this reply for a bit. From "How to survive a pandemic" by Dr. Greger, I recall this being an avian flu. So it's possible for covid to bounce around in them. Quick search, I'm seeing articles about even newer coronaviruses being discovered in birds. I don't think the wild population is the threat to most worry about creating future variants of covid. The biggest threat is probably where there are the biggest populations of birds in close quarters with one another and humans - on farms. Given how mink farms were recently slaughtered to stop the spread of covid amongst them, similar measures would be taken with poultry.

Avian viruses on farms have always been a big concern among the epidemiologists, if Dr Greger's book is any indication. Stopping the virus movements among humans and similar mass slaughterings among livestock could work. I takeaway that it's a statistics problem as to when and not if we see another virus capable of becoming a serious pandemic again.

The extent to which society learned how to monitor and react to new viruses during the covid-19 pandemic may well determine our fates next time.