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Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive

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Post by nucleardog » Sun, Apr 18, 2021, 11:51 PM UTC

whitexn--g28h wrote: post #87

nucleardog wrote: post #83

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I'd add to the list "things that could be fixed if this turns out to not be temporary". If the only place you have to set up your workspace is your kitchen table then yeah, that sucks hard. But most people I know living in tiny bachelor suites and stuff where this becomes necessary are doing so because that was what they could get/afford a reasonable distance from the office. If your WFH transitions to permanent, the…

Living in the city allows me to go to restaurants, drink as much as I like, and safely walk back home. I can go to a concert and not have to worry if I’ll miss the last train. I can reduce my carbon footprint by driving less. Moving everyone out of the cities and into the suburbs would be an environmental disaster.

Yep, so stay downtown! Chances are rents are going to go down as a bunch of people empty out, so you can likely pick up some more space and/or access to a co-working space post-COVID pretty cheaply.

People like me in the city proper because I have to commute to downtown, but otherwise have no desire to be in the city will move further out to one of the substantially sized suburbs that meet all my needs besides work and never come back.

People downtown that want to be nearby and have access, but don't necessarily feel the need for living upstairs from their favourite bar will take my place, and on and on.

Instead of density having to concentrate in a few small few areas, it can disperse and even out and I find it hard to not see that as being to pretty much everyone's benefit.

Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive

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Post by pmarreck » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:43 PM UTC

exotree wrote: post #41

pmarreck wrote: post #37

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It may depend on the person and the job. Pre-pandemic I lasted only 4 months at a remote job. I kept asking to meet them (they were in Atlanta, me in Long Island, but most of them were scattered), meeting stakeholders in person gives me a charge which aids my focus and overall productivity. Anyway they kept deferring, and then one day sort of out of the blue and without warning (literally... the day prior the supervi…

Why did you take a job that you knew was remote but insist on meeting the stakeholders in person? You shouldn’t have taken that job with that expectation.

They agreed to meet before I was hired, after I started, so they set up the expectation and then stalled on follow-through

Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive

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Post by pmarreck » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:45 PM UTC

tene wrote: post #68

pmarreck wrote: post #37

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It may depend on the person and the job. Pre-pandemic I lasted only 4 months at a remote job. I kept asking to meet them (they were in Atlanta, me in Long Island, but most of them were scattered), meeting stakeholders in person gives me a charge which aids my focus and overall productivity. Anyway they kept deferring, and then one day sort of out of the blue and without warning (literally... the day prior the supervi…

How do you check during the hiring process to tell whether new hires will intuitively know when not to interrupt? Have you often worked on teams where everyone intuitively knows when to not interrupt someone? Every office I've ever worked in has always had people who interrupt me while I'm trying to focus. If you've got a way to exclusively hire mind-readers that can effectively avoid this, I'm curious to hear how yo…

The handful of development shops I’ve worked in, I don’t recall ever being frustrated by interruptions. These were also startups, where perhaps an entirely different mindset exists. There was kind of an ebb and flow.

In the real estate office I now work out of sometimes (they offered me a free desk due to my project work)? It is CONSTANTLY annoying.

Re: SBA executives ‘beyond doubt’ that teleworking employees are more productive

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Post by pmarreck » Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 8:47 PM UTC

dleslie wrote: post #42

pmarreck wrote: post #37

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It may depend on the person and the job. Pre-pandemic I lasted only 4 months at a remote job. I kept asking to meet them (they were in Atlanta, me in Long Island, but most of them were scattered), meeting stakeholders in person gives me a charge which aids my focus and overall productivity. Anyway they kept deferring, and then one day sort of out of the blue and without warning (literally... the day prior the supervi…

I'm roughly 6 years into working from home; the pandemic isn't really a new experience for me. The first year was concerning because it was different and weird, but it rapidly became normal. Now, I reflect on how _slow_ office work was and find myself frustrated for my past self.

That’s great for you, but I don’t like feeling like a pariah or digital monk