I am a long-time listener, but I am highly selective. The majority of the removed episodes in this list are the type of episodes that I skip. If I am going to spend 3 hours, I like to spend it with guests of the caliber of Bryan Fogel, Moxie Marlinspike, et al. I feel JRE is at its best when Joe is sitting across from someone who is from a different planet.
Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
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#112>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.
$100m? Is there a source for this? I'm amazed.
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#113>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.
> It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here from a legal viewpoint, yes. Ethically it's very much looking into how a big platform is using its power to hide certain kinds of content from its viewers.
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#114I wonder if/how much the move cost his listener ship. I see in the comments pleas for Joe to come back to Youtube. I dont know why this happens but Spotify does not work with UConnect on my Jeep. It plays for 1-2 seconds and then mutes. Spotify is the only music/audio platform that doesnt work with Uconnect, but that immediately removes it from being played in my car. Long car rides are where I consume podcasts, so n…
Anecdotal, but post-Spotify, I have probably watched less than 10% as much as I used to--paying Spotify customer as well. The Spotify video/podcast UX is awful.
I was a big consumer of JRE on youtube. I enjoyed the content and the comments. I haven't watched a single episode on Spotify and I have a paid family plan.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
That may be true, but we're also witnessing one of those periods of consolidation of control right now . We could resign ourselves to history, or we could try to do something about it
The thing that makes me less worried is that we're probably at one of the most open periods in history. Don't like Spotify? You've got about a million other options. Rogan freely chose to accept some limits in exchange for a truckload of cash. He was already doing quite well without Spotify, from what I understand. I think the framing that he was somehow unable to succeed without accepting censorship is a little off…
I'm not that worried about Spotify and 40 odd episodes from the Joe Rogan catalog, but it does fit into a larger narrative. I am somewhat concerned that a hand-full of companies can effectively remove someone from the public discourse. Nobody was too upset when Alex Jones got deplatformed, but there is something a little unnerving about the fact that Twitter was allowed to basically kill certain news stories leading up to the election.
The current state of social media and online discourse is causing some serious problems, but I am not so convinced we are going about fixing it in the right way.
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#117Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…
It's been reported in the past that it is staff. Spotify has 5,000+ employees -- I wouldn't assume for a second that it's the tech workers doing this, I suspect it's probably HR and marketing and so on. It's a big bureaucratic organization. I like to think if I was at Spotify, and I saw people holding the company hostage like this -- threatening to quit (or whatever) if they don't get their way -- that I would stand…
Is there a source for this? Seems way more likely to be monetarily pushed by either investors or advertisers (as other poster said) or at least pre-emptively done to appease those groups.
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#118Seems like it's regulars getting nixed. Maybe they asked for a cut of the money?
Just being on the show was some amazing free advertisement for your book/show etc. for the guests. I really don't see why they would ask for money.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where can I find an archive online? I am really disappointed that Spotify is removing all these episodes, and have refused to give their podcasts any attention as a result.
> Where can I find an archive online? If there was one, Spotify would sue to have it taken down. The goal of censorship isn't to remove "offensive" content from Spotify: the goal is to remove it from existence, completely, as though it had never been.
I don't know why there are downvotes. Spotify holds the rights to the episode, and would absolutely file a takedown request. There's no "but they aren't making it available!" copyright exception.
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#120>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.
The thing to see here (literally, or listen to), is how Joe, despite his assertion that there are no limits from Spotify, makes decisions on guests and talking points while someone at spotify holds a hammer over his hand vis a vis killing old episodes. He knows the hosting party doesn't like certain content, and will eliminate episodes that violate some murky line of political correctness - it's impossible that such a dynamic doesn't affect his decisions going forward.