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I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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I am a research mathematician. I work hard, but I also spend a lot of time pursuing other interests such as yoga, swing dancing, and improv comedy. This takes away from the time I do math. Does this make me less of a mathematician? Of course it does. This is a tautology. I am a mathematician to the extent which I devote my time and energy to learning and doing math. Sometimes I feel guilty about this, but on reflecti…

just curious, where does one work researching mathematics?

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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Don't you mean sarcasm or are you being ironic?

Sarcasm is a form of irony - one meaning of irony is saying one thing, and meaning another. "Sure, that's a great idea" is both sarcastic and ironic (although not ironic in the sense people most commonly use the word, which non-ironically, is not that ironic).

http://sarchasm.net/

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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when i'm working a 9-5 job, the last thing i want to do is go home and program more. i'd rather throw the ball around with the dog or rock out on my guitar. in my experience the people who say "you have to have side projects to be a good developer" are either people who do program in their spare time, or people who want to hire the type of programmers who voluntarily chain themselves to their desk. this is one myth i…

Programming isn't like any of those examples, though. Try making the same argument but use 'painters' and 'musicians'. Code is an art-form. I experiment in my spare time because I enjoy it.

I don't actually think not programming in your spare time will make you a 'bad' programmer, though. Only that being interested in it hobby-wise is a good sign. Practice helps you get good at anything, for one thing, and keeping up with the industry/etc is a big deal.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

#114
I've been coding in my spare time in and out since I got my first computer. I didn't do it because I wanted to be a good programmer, but because I love creating stuff and programming is the easiest way I know to create stuff. I'm not happy if I'm not creating something.

Also, a few months ago I quit my job and I'm now making a living teaching people what I've learned during my "spare-time". I now have more free time than I could ever imagine, and the notion of spare-time is starting to disapear.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

#115

A good programmer should wake up at 6 am in the morning get a solid 2.5hrs of coding done by 8:30 am, at 8:30 leave for work, work till 6 (it goes without saying that the lunchbreak must be spent trying to learn the Haskell or if you are feeling lazy answering questions on stackoverflow). Commute from 6 to 6:30 (it's a bonus if you listen to a technical podcast during this time and no stuff like TWIT does not count,…

I call BS. There's a continuous five-hour stretch between 1 AM and 6 AM when you're not being productive.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

#116

A good programmer should wake up at 6 am in the morning get a solid 2.5hrs of coding done by 8:30 am, at 8:30 leave for work, work till 6 (it goes without saying that the lunchbreak must be spent trying to learn the Haskell or if you are feeling lazy answering questions on stackoverflow). Commute from 6 to 6:30 (it's a bonus if you listen to a technical podcast during this time and no stuff like TWIT does not count,…

I call BS. There's a continuous five-hour stretch between 1 AM and 6 AM when you're not being productive.

You should at least set up some script to automatically refactor your code or search for prime numbers or something during that time.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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when i'm working a 9-5 job, the last thing i want to do is go home and program more. i'd rather throw the ball around with the dog or rock out on my guitar. in my experience the people who say "you have to have side projects to be a good developer" are either people who do program in their spare time, or people who want to hire the type of programmers who voluntarily chain themselves to their desk. this is one myth i…

Let's say you and I started writing code at the same age or time, and you code only 9-5, whereas I code an average of 15 hours a week more than that in my spare time. Two years later, I've gotten as much experience (or at least put in as many hours) as would take you >3 years to gather. Five years after we started, I'm 3 years your senior in terms of experience. It's not that you won't be a good developer if you don'…

Actually, that's not true. Their is a limit to how much each day you can "practice." I believe the number is 4 hours. Putting in more time doesn't mean you are learning more. It simply means you are putting in more time.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

#118

A good programmer should wake up at 6 am in the morning get a solid 2.5hrs of coding done by 8:30 am, at 8:30 leave for work, work till 6 (it goes without saying that the lunchbreak must be spent trying to learn the Haskell or if you are feeling lazy answering questions on stackoverflow). Commute from 6 to 6:30 (it's a bonus if you listen to a technical podcast during this time and no stuff like TWIT does not count,…

Once you've got a family, that changes my friend ... you need to set aside at least an hour a night to teach your kids how to code.

If they are born without knowing how to code, drop them off at the fire station.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

#119

I am a research mathematician. I work hard, but I also spend a lot of time pursuing other interests such as yoga, swing dancing, and improv comedy. This takes away from the time I do math. Does this make me less of a mathematician? Of course it does. This is a tautology. I am a mathematician to the extent which I devote my time and energy to learning and doing math. Sometimes I feel guilty about this, but on reflecti…

just curious, where does one work researching mathematics?

I'm a university postdoc, going to start a professorship next year.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #82

I am a research mathematician. I work hard, but I also spend a lot of time pursuing other interests such as yoga, swing dancing, and improv comedy. This takes away from the time I do math. Does this make me less of a mathematician? Of course it does. This is a tautology. I am a mathematician to the extent which I devote my time and energy to learning and doing math. Sometimes I feel guilty about this, but on reflecti…

>Does this make me less of a mathematician? Of course it does. I disagree. Burn out is a real thing and once it happens your capacity is drastically reduced. I suspect you've probably found the maximum output you're capable of producing long term.

It's possible you're right. In my case I rather doubt it -- especially considering the late nights I've been out -- but at the very least I agree that this kind of thing is often true.
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