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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by belinder » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

pedrocr wrote: post #99

unionpivo wrote: post #60

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I was/am thinkpad user also. I have migrated to desktops. They are cheap enough to have one at the office and one at home. Sure the above wont work for everybody, but if you are like me, you unpacked the laptop at home and at work each day at exactly the same space, where all the cables and extra monitors were. I used to use laptop in coffee shops and outdoors, but nowadays between phone, and tablets (wel phone and k…

With the quality of networks these days it may pay off to just have a single beefy desktop at work or home and a very simple desktop in the other location that you just use to remote in to the first. Keeps the environment consistent over time and even allows leaving long running computations running and picking them up later. Two remote stations and a headless server in a rack somewhere may even be better. No worries…

What remoting software do you recommend

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by neogodless » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

Naac wrote: post #83

It doesn't look like there is a Thunderbolt port ( a 40 GBPS port ). I recall reading that it has something to do with it working on Intel only hardware. But whatever the case is, lack of Thunderbolt is unfortunately a deal breaker. I've moved on to unifying all my docks and power chords to only be Thunderbolt. It's unfortunate because the Ryzen chipsets are clearly getting to be superior from a price/performance poi…

Thunderbolt aka USB 4 (I think?) can be added to AMD systems but so far I've only seen one AMD desktop motherboard introduce this option. So far it doesn't look good for 2021... maybe next year?!

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by bydo » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:07 PM UTC

tootie wrote: post #105

Happpy wrote: post #27

I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

I would cry tears of joy to get a laptop with mouse buttons. Trackpad gestures are a gimmick and so much harder to user than buttons. Apple did it to be "bold" and everyone copied them.

Apple has only ever shipped single-button mice with their computers, so turning the whole trackpad into that button on their laptops was a pretty simple evolution. Gestures came much later.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by legohead » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:08 PM UTC

throwawayffffas wrote: post #58

jarcane wrote: post #25

Would like to see more specifics than just "AMD Radeon Graphics". That could mean literally anything from Intel integrated level performance, to a proper dedicated GPU, though for the price here I'm guessing on the former ...

See benchmarks here: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Ryzen+7+4700U...

basically: not great

I don't want to advertise, so I'll just say - you can go to a big computer/hardware seller website and search for laptops with nvidia graphics cards. You can get a laptop with a GTX 1650 for $700, which has 3x the performance.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by rvanlaar » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #98

rvanlaar wrote: post #88

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My main reason to go for a laptop was that I wanted to continue coding where I left off and not have to worry about differing settings and system configuration. Did you solve those problems? and if so how?

I do it with Windows by using remote desktop. If you don't want to do something like that, with a Microsoft account a lot of settings can be applied to multiple machines.

I use Linux for application development. Python, C++, occasional R and use linux containers as well.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by easton » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #65

piokoch wrote: post #23

Is this system better than, say, Lenovo Legion 5 or HP Envy, they have similar price, are those System76 laptop offer better build quality, etc?

I have owned multiple S76 machines - the machine was built by Clio? The guts were good, but the case was chintsy. I had four of these laptops - and on ALL 4 they would have screws come loose and fall out inside the case. You could hear it rattling around when you turned the machine. Two of them had one type of connector for the screen and the other two had a different connector - One got fried and on the other I brok…

> HP support is AMAZING.

Can anyone else back this up? Has HP changed? I've sworn off HP products (both enterprise and consumer) because of their terrible customer service and documentation. Dell/Lenovo always offer something very similar in price and performance, and their enterprise support is fine to great.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by tlhunter » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:09 PM UTC

I love non-4k displays, but 1080p on a 15" is too harsh. 1440p would probably be the cutoff for that size.

It seems that most developers (their target audience?) love hidpi which may be one of the biggest adoption issues for System 76.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by vngzs » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

I'd buy one if they had high DPI panels. Even 16:10 would be a significant improvement; 1080 vertical pixels feels awfully cramped these days.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by kevinherron » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

Too bad it has that numpad instead of a centered keyboard.

Also I don't understand why a laptop of that size doesn't have a 99Wh battery.

The 1080p resolution is understandable... high DPI support suck-fest can be avoided.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by criddell » Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 5:10 PM UTC

astorgard wrote: post #74

Happpy wrote: post #27

I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

I'm on the same boat as you: my ideal laptop would be an x220/x230 on the outside with a 1440p display and a modern CPU on the inside. I can't understand why Thinkpads are moving away from this absolutely perfect design in the name of... slickness? Why are laptops with a minimal (or non-existing) touchpad so difficult to find? Once you start using the trackpoint your wrists feel incredibly relaxed at all times. Why d…

Have you looked at the P series laptops?

> Why do so few vendors offer RJ45 ports?

I'm guessing that because laptops are portable machines, almost nobody ever uses the network port and if you need one, you can use an adapter with the USB port.