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They also don't provide very much heat output when it's cold outside

It needs to be really cold. Like -15°C and some go as low as -40°C. They degrade in efficiency but are still better than a space heater. In the worst case they are exactly as efficient as a space heater.

worst case being 0 K outdoor temperature?

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This is basically what all life does. Thermodynamically, life can be described as an open system which makes use of gradients in its surroundings to create imperfect copies of itself. Crypto currencies still have a problem with creating copies of itself, but humans are happy to oblige.

Comparing life itself to crypto is ridiculous.

Not entirely. Energy utilization is a common proxy for technological development. If a society is plowing tons of energy into crypto mining, then by definition somebody is getting utility out of it. (Which doesn't preclude it all being a Ponzi scheme, but that's another story.)

Re: Bitcoin miners in Abkhazia are causing blackouts in remote villages [video]

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This is basically what all life does. Thermodynamically, life can be described as an open system which makes use of gradients in its surroundings to create imperfect copies of itself. Crypto currencies still have a problem with creating copies of itself, but humans are happy to oblige.

Comparing life itself to crypto is ridiculous.

Ok Dad.

Re: Bitcoin miners in Abkhazia are causing blackouts in remote villages [video]

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Comparing life itself to crypto is ridiculous.

Not entirely. Energy utilization is a common proxy for technological development. If a society is plowing tons of energy into crypto mining, then by definition somebody is getting utility out of it. (Which doesn't preclude it all being a Ponzi scheme, but that's another story.)

Life, the original RNA Ponzi scheme.

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How does the network protocol of bitcoin work? Would governments be able to block it? Can it be DDoS-ed?

Without knowing for sure, I think you could just block port 8333. The individual miners could surely be DDoS, if you know their IP. I wonder if it's possible to just generate junk transactions and throw them at miners.

That would close things off for most nodes but there are lots of nodes running on Tor or custom ports. Not to mention other channels like satellites that are used for transaction distribution.

Junk transactions could stop a few nodes but all transactions are verified locally on nodes and won't be broadcast if they turn out to be junk.

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Idea to solve the crypto energy problem - sell space heaters as dual purpose crypto miners. People need space heaters. They buy them, but they also mine crypto (as a free byproduct of the space heating). The number of crypto mining space heaters out there dilute the value of dedicated mining so much that people don't bother with it anymore. Even buying the space heater to make money from mining crypto doesn't make th…

I live in an area of Canada where home heat is pretty much provided exclusively by natural gas but electricity comes mainly from nuclear and hydroelectric sources.

Interesting to think about, but by firing up a miner on my graphics card at off hours I'd probably lower my overall fossil fuel consumption and make some money on the side.

Anything I'm missing here?

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It needs to be really cold. Like -15°C and some go as low as -40°C. They degrade in efficiency but are still better than a space heater. In the worst case they are exactly as efficient as a space heater.

worst case being 0 K outdoor temperature?

Rather 1:1 electricity to heat conversion.

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Idea to solve the crypto energy problem - sell space heaters as dual purpose crypto miners. People need space heaters. They buy them, but they also mine crypto (as a free byproduct of the space heating). The number of crypto mining space heaters out there dilute the value of dedicated mining so much that people don't bother with it anymore. Even buying the space heater to make money from mining crypto doesn't make th…

Heat pumps are approximately three times as efficient as electric heating.

"Pumping water down hill is more efficient than pumping it sideways"

The CoP of a heat pump is dependent on the temperature potential across the heat pump. Caution to the reader who thinks one could pump heat from frigid external temperatures into their very warm, high temperature house: the very scenario your post suggests they should be used.

Heat pumps are great for increasing thermal potentials and moving heat across them (not for sourcing energy). They're also great for balancing an internal thermal state that is, on-net, in balance (think of a large office building in the morning, one side is being heated by the sun, the other side is frigid -- heat pumps can balance the internal energy demands instead of simultaneously cooling one part of the building and heating the other)

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