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From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by xenophonf »

sigjuice wrote: post #102
ljm wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny you say that, because I always find myself reverting to emacs and, even after playing with config distros like Spacemacs and Doom Emacs, I've settled on on a severely minimal config with mostly default keybinds, and magit on the side because it is the best interface to git I've ever had the pleasure to use. I also enjoy running linters and test commands in a compilation buffer and hitting 'g' to re-run/refresh…

I learnt something cool about Emacs undo on a recent HN thread. If some text is selected before invoking undo, then undo happens only within the selected region.

25 years using the thing, and I'm always learning something new about Emacs. Thanks for the tip!

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by thelean12 »

alex_smart wrote: post #49
andrewzah wrote: post #24

This article fails to explain -why- one would want to switch to emacs from vim. Org-mode and configuring emacs in a lisp-like are cool, but are not worth re-learning everything for me. I put that time in already by reading "Practical Vim" by Drew Neil and other vim literature online. I'm sure everyone is already aware, but vi is available basically everywhere. This has saved my ass at least twice where I couldn't acc…

How many lines of vimscript have you written? No, copy-pasting config lines from someone's dotfiles doesn't count. How many times have you opened the source code of some vim plugin you are using and tried to modify what it does? If I were to hazard a guess: zero. That was also me during ten years of vim usage. Vim encourages the mindset of mastery = learning a bunch of tricks, remembering them and incorporating them…

> How many lines of vimscript have you written? [...] How many times have you opened the source code of some vim plugin you are using and tried to modify what it does?

Zero, thank god. I have enough work to do at work. I don't need to make a hobby out of my editor.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by joadha »

rtpg wrote: post #106
davidw wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Emacs vs Vim is like comfort food for software-related online discussions.

I guess, given how evil-mode just gets better and better every day I'm not really seeing many people moving in the other direction, at least based on the blog posts. No shade on Vim, people like it and are productive in it. I see it like using Sublime Text, lots of people can get away with it, but I need more doodads in my editor. And hey, nobody is like "Notepad++ vs. Visual Studio", which I think kinda matches the…

Here's the thing, though. I don't use Vim as an IDE. I use it on live servers to change configs / scripts / app code (don't tell anyone) quickly and efficiently. I don't think "extra doodads" would help with that, and I'm not sure I'd want to manage those dependencies on my platform anyway.

If I'm actually developing something that's part of a greater whole, then I'm using a fully fledged IDE like PyCharm (but with the VIM emulator plugged in for when I need it, of course ;-D).

Likewise, no shade at Emacs, though. Several of my favorite colleagues use it!

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by da39a3ee »

I love emacs as a lisp environment to work in and have used it for 20 years but the emacs LSP picture is starting to look seriously sketchy in comparison with what more language-specific IDEs such as VSCode and PyCharm etc offer. Especially now that static typing is becoming standard in languages like Python and Javascript. If you have a lot of spare time you can probably make eglot and lsp-mode work in your favorite language. But if you work in a few languages, you sort of need to be working part time and have no family or social commitments.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by ph2082 »

dang wrote: post #2

Just for fun, here are some of the larger past threads. Others? After over a decade of Vim, I’m hooked on Emacs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16551796 - March 2018 (161 comments) A pragmatic decision on GNU Emacs versus Vim for programming - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13590944 - Feb 2017 (59 comments) Why I switched from Vim to Emacs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13130775 - Dec 2016 (101 c…

From

>> Debian's Vim maintainer switches to Emacs - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=341492 - Oct 2008 (32 comments)

He warned me I should switch from vi to emacs because prolonged vi usage causes hair loss. :)

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by maximilianroos »

cwlb wrote: post #65
maximilianroos wrote: post #39

For those who use Vim bindings, and would like to try out emacs, I'd suggest trying Spacemacs: https://www.spacemacs.org/ It has "evil mode" by default — the vim bindings. I picked this up at Jane Street, where much of the internal tooling is in emacs. I still use it wherever I can't get a good vscode setup, and it has some advantages over vscode.

I picked up spacemacs earlier this year but have since switched to Doom emacs: https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs it's smaller, faster, and you configure it in a way that's closer to vanilla emacs. The size makes it more tractable to learn. The creator & primary maintainer is more active, funny, and helpful than the spacemacs maintainer who I believe is on hiatus. I wish someone had told Doom about it before I pi…

Thanks! It looks good. I'll check it out more.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by sigjuice »

prurigro wrote: post #107
sigjuice wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, sshfs doesn't work on modern macOS.

I just tested and it works for me, I'm fully up to date too.

That is great! I thought Big Sur had deprecated kernel extensions which would prevent osxfuse and sshfs from working.

Re: From Vim to Emacs in fourteen days (2015)

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Post by champagnepapi »

joadha wrote: post #114
rtpg wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess, given how evil-mode just gets better and better every day I'm not really seeing many people moving in the other direction, at least based on the blog posts. No shade on Vim, people like it and are productive in it. I see it like using Sublime Text, lots of people can get away with it, but I need more doodads in my editor. And hey, nobody is like "Notepad++ vs. Visual Studio", which I think kinda matches the…

Here's the thing, though. I don't use Vim as an IDE. I use it on live servers to change configs / scripts / app code (don't tell anyone) quickly and efficiently. I don't think "extra doodads" would help with that, and I'm not sure I'd want to manage those dependencies on my platform anyway. If I'm actually developing something that's part of a greater whole, then I'm using a fully fledged IDE like PyCharm (but with t…

Changes to PRODUCTION app code on server?! I’ve seen this happen once or twice at my current company. Not the best of times...
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