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I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious. Running an email service is not, by any means, a 'tiny project'. I would never pay, nor rely on an e-mail service that is effectively a one-men side project. I just took a quick check on the 'mailbox' domain (I can't paste emoji here on HN). There seems to be no DMARC, no MTA-STS and no T…

This service doesn’t support even sending, just receiving. So I don’t think there is DKIM even considered.

Or SPF for that matter.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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The customer's words echoed in his mind. 'robert at lightbulb emoji dot kz, but with a real lightbulb emoji.' The clerk had registered thousands, maybe tens of thousands of e-mails into the Nordstrom Rack Nordy Rewards program, and he had seen it all, but this, this was something entirely new. This wasn't the single letter username or the overly sexual address or the gmail address with the plus sign, all mildly interesting but within the bounds of what was possible. What was normal. What was sane. This was something entirely new. The point of sale workstation has no key for the lightbulb emoji. This was the predicament. But if an emoji can be an e-mail address, maybe some other part of the computer can be a keyboard. Maybe the floor can be a table. Maybe hands can be screwdrivers. The clerk began touching the screen. Pawing at the sides of the monitor. He began mumbling as he moved his attention to the receipt printer, ripping it open, 'there's gotta be an emoji button in here somewhere.' As his search intensified, so too did the stares of customers waiting in line. In a final effort the clerk hoisted the register above his head before smashing it on the ground, bringing himself down with the machine. Associates had pooled around their coworker and were urging calm. Emergency Services had been notified and were en route, and slowly the chaos turned to calm. An associate reached out to ask the customer if she could finish ringing him up on another register. 'Sure,' he replied, 'but this time let's just use my gmail address.'

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

#113
post #97

This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious. Running an email service is not, by any means, a 'tiny project'. I would never pay, nor rely on an e-mail service that is effectively a one-men side project. I just took a quick check on the 'mailbox' domain (I can't paste emoji here on HN). There seems to be no DMARC, no MTA-STS and no T…

I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't expect something like this to work reliably.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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post #97

This service should come with a big fat warning that the emoji email addresses should never be used for anything remotely serious. Running an email service is not, by any means, a 'tiny project'. I would never pay, nor rely on an e-mail service that is effectively a one-men side project. I just took a quick check on the 'mailbox' domain (I can't paste emoji here on HN). There seems to be no DMARC, no MTA-STS and no T…

What you say is entirely true. But in practice, this is for fun, no one gonna use their emoji email for anything important. But it's great to have an emoji email to give to medium when they ask for it? Isn't that great.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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This address will not work for obvious historic reasons in Germany.

For anyone outside the german-speaking countres: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps -- In german: Konzentrationslager, abbreviated with KZ. Similarly, never use abbrevations like SS, NS, AH, HH, HJ in Germany. Also, some of these are forbidden on our license plates.

Why is Konzentrationslager KZ rather than KL ?

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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I think you need the .kz, if you don't, I can officially say that I am out of the tech game and need to go grow potatoes.

You need a TLD but IIRC, the second level is not required. So you could have something like ` http://google `, which I think, Google actually had at some point in the past. Cannot however find anything related to this anymore.

The .ai TLD has an A record, so http://ai/ works.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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I started registering some emoji domains on Ethereum Name Service, not to be a total squatter I’m building static sites and deploying them on IPFS...it’s fun but expensive so hopefully NFT dWeb/web3 domains turn out to have cryptoart value. The use case mostly seems to be a novelty wallet address but I’m going full blown GeoCities with building decentralized websites. I even built a NFT search engine deployed on IPFS at geocities.eth

The emoji domains are cool in theory but there are issues to say the least. Many services asking for your domain name don’t recognize the emoji character (google programmable search engine, fleek, github, etc...). I did manage to “hack” the system a little and register a single character emoji domain ( .eth) because it renders as 3 characters.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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post #53

This is a fun hack, but there is no way I would get involved in providing any form of commercial email service for $1440 arr. I wouldn't do it for $1440 a _day_. Everything involved with email is pain. I wish you luck.

Depends. If he is actually running only a forwarder , it is much easier than running an full fledged service with mailboxes and other support.

Running a 'forwarder' still means that you have manage the MTAs, and all the infrastructure around it. It's still a lot of work.

Re: I bought 300 emoji domain names from Kazakhstan and built an email service

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this some sort of abuse protection, where people use gmail as free storage?

Gmail already is free storage, AFAIK it shares you data quota with you Google drive account. Most likely this is a 'mail-loop' prevention. If you setup two accounts that forward to each other, then emails will be stuck in an infinite loop. Inject a couple of multi-megabyte emails into that loop and you can take down the entire service. This is effectively a DOS attack.

It could also be an implementation detail.

Mail messages have a unique identifier. Gmail might just concatenate the mail identifier with your account identifier to use it as a primary key to store your email in the "mails" bigtable.

If you send email to yourself, when it comes to put the mail into the mails bigtable, the result will be "primary key already exists, cannot insert"

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