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The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by sickygnar »

haskal wrote: post #97
GCA10 wrote: post #32

Nice work! I'm about 1850 in Lichess blitz, and it played at the level of an earnest 12 year old, which is actually meant as a compliment. It got crazy with its kingside pawns in the opening (no book knowledge), lost material pretty steadily and was checkmated down a queen, bishop and two pawns by move 25. But it developed some pieces sensibly, made obvious recaptures and was not reckless about king safety. It avoide…

If you play a defensive setup like push D, E pawns one step ahead, fianchetto both the bishops, try to castle early, the computer just flings all the pawns forward, even from the king side: https://imgur.com/a/Nt4x7TP Anti-computer tactics in chess: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-computer_tactics EDIT: GothamChess used a similar system to defeat a bot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5MD6hn5PgI (from 1:59)

the almighty hippopotomus. love playing it against humans too (with limited success)

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by register »

At it was expected the program is very very weak. The elo should be around 1100-1200. Based on my game it doesn't see more than 1-2 semimoves ahead and doesn't have an opening repertoire. The evaluation function is weak because the program starts the opening by moving lateral pawns and neglecting good piece development and central control

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by bonzini »

h0l0cube wrote: post #36
andrelaszlo wrote: post #8

I'm a novice player but I reached a stalemate in my first game. I am not a big fan of the graphics, they're really really cool but I made at least two big mistakes because I misread the pieces - and now I have a headache :D

Yeah, the pieces are a bit illegible. I accidentally moved my Queen instead of castling, which is when I quit. Otherwise pretty impressive

The pieces were meant to be displayed on a composite (NTSC) display rather than with 4-color CGA graphics. Check out the Twitter thread at https://mobile.twitter.com/pinot/status/1330544777847332879.

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by angry_octet »

GCA10 wrote: post #32

Nice work! I'm about 1850 in Lichess blitz, and it played at the level of an earnest 12 year old, which is actually meant as a compliment. It got crazy with its kingside pawns in the opening (no book knowledge), lost material pretty steadily and was checkmated down a queen, bishop and two pawns by move 25. But it developed some pieces sensibly, made obvious recaptures and was not reckless about king safety. It avoide…

What you're saying is I'm getting crushed by an earnest 12 year old. Oh dear.

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by lgeorget »

Vaslo wrote: post #106
GCA10 wrote: post #32

Nice work! I'm about 1850 in Lichess blitz, and it played at the level of an earnest 12 year old, which is actually meant as a compliment. It got crazy with its kingside pawns in the opening (no book knowledge), lost material pretty steadily and was checkmated down a queen, bishop and two pawns by move 25. But it developed some pieces sensibly, made obvious recaptures and was not reckless about king safety. It avoide…

I played like an earnest 3 year old I guess and lost.

There are some pretty good three-year-old players out there... https://youtu.be/2N4t0EBSg1w

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by lgeorget »

fjeifisjf wrote: post #98
cout wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I settled for the second trick newcomers learn -- forking the Queen and the Rook with the Knight. Easy win being up a Rook and Pawn to a Knight, with the black's King uncastled and in the open. I expected it to play like Ed's Chess on DOS, which I always had trouble beating. IIRC that engine looks 3-4 moves ahead usually, but 6-7 moves ahead when it needs to. No idea how big the equivalent JS would be.

Looking ahead more moves requires zero more code -- depth is a loop variable.

Well the deeper you look, the more clever you need to be about pruning your branches and exploring the search space, so I would guess it does require more code.

Re: The Kilobyte’s Gambit

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Post by netflixandkill »

ehsankia wrote: post #57
dwohnitmok wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did it help? Or do people still complain about it?

In my experience having small webapps, it hardly helps. I literally added a huge modal popup on my feedback button specifically saying "DO NOT MESSAGE ME ABOUT X" before continuing and I still get dozens a week. Even on reddit, when you get a high ranked comment, you will often get the same reply over and over again, even though a similar response is already the highest ranked reply to yours. There are people who jus…

Reddit sadly went the way of mostly write-only microblogging a long time ago now. I'm not sure what the solution is between invite only subs or heavy and time consuming moderation, and random comments that are just people thinking out loud, as using any sort of karma metrics would be useless when you can get 20-30k off a no effort post in a popular sub, but I also doubt that reddit the company spends much time worrying about it.

I can't remember who I stole "the internet is write only" but it's felt very true as audience size exploded.

Perhaps the worst part is that it's self reinforcing in either direction, and few people ever leave the agora unless they delve into niche subjects, so they bring the agora mentality with them.

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