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Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

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Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

The us let’s Chinese firms generally speaking full access to the us market. The CCP doesn’t allow the us companies the same. Why our government let that happen. Letting so much business leave to the CCP will be one of the greatest failings of the us government.

Because the US in large part is ruled in the interest of the international capital and the ruling elites, not in the interest of its general populace. It was more profitable to deindustrialize the US.

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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It wasn't even a belief in the first place. I read a dozen books on post-Nixon US politics. The amount of allegations from both sides of US politics that the other benefitted in the personal capacity from trade with China is staggering. At least some of them must be genuine. It comes to a very simple explanation that communists have indeed been influencing US politics for decades with very crude means, and that they…

The very simple explanation is that the USA is infiltrated by communists?

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$1T of US debt sounds like a lot, but it's less than 4% of US debt. It's not an insignificant amount, but they don't own a lot to impact the US economy. Japan owns more ($1.25T) and the UK and Ireland get up to $0.75T. Realistically, what would china do? If you "start massively selling US debt", what does that mean? Someone has to buy it. You're increasing the supply while demand probably stays pretty constant. But r…

You may have a valid point but on a technical note TikTok does not operate in China either because they don't conform with China's content censorship policy.

It's called Douyin in China.

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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You may have a valid point but on a technical note TikTok does not operate in China either because they don't conform with China's content censorship policy.

It's called Douyin in China.

Isn't Douyin a separate service offered by ByteDance directly (or a separate subsidiary from TikTok), not a local name for TikTok, which is offered by the company of the same name which is a subsidiary of ByteDance?

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

The us let’s Chinese firms generally speaking full access to the us market. The CCP doesn’t allow the us companies the same. Why our government let that happen. Letting so much business leave to the CCP will be one of the greatest failings of the us government.

We need blocking foreign direct investment for America by any Chinese from 20 years previous. Today we need grand incentives for tax reducing to make repurchasing of China investments in America. No Chinese should have owningship on any asset of America. Chinese is hostile power to good things all in world. Need containment to until collapse of government it have now.

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The US also believed that giving China an example of "the good way" via access to the US markets would cause them to open up and allow access in kind. Turned out that was a pretty naive belief.

It wasn't even a belief in the first place. I read a dozen books on post-Nixon US politics. The amount of allegations from both sides of US politics that the other benefitted in the personal capacity from trade with China is staggering. At least some of them must be genuine. It comes to a very simple explanation that communists have indeed been influencing US politics for decades with very crude means, and that they…

It'd be nice to see some supporting citations.

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The us let’s Chinese firms generally speaking full access to the us market. The CCP doesn’t allow the us companies the same. Why our government let that happen. Letting so much business leave to the CCP will be one of the greatest failings of the us government.

A few speculative ideas/thoughts: - The US needs access to China's goods to be viable. For half a century US companies improved their efficiency/competitiveness by moving their process to China. They now have too many dependencies in the form of Chinese manufacturing and development capabilities and do not have the skills/knowledge/talents/infrastructure in the US. Because of this China can dictate their rules with z…

These debt am purchased only tiny share in total debt. We are spent 2 more trillions in one bill more only just now. Chinese are use currency basically stole from world for to purchase these debt: https://twitter.com/adamscrabble/status/1094717028009689089

We need in total embargo China. She are largest threat among existence for continuing America.

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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You are correct, and this is America's, and West's predicament. If you can't do this, you can't do this. And you certainly wouldn't be able to do even more painful things which are truly needed for the West to have any chance to put the genie back into the bottle. China, and Russia have effectively conditioned the NATO countries over the decades into "self-beneficial inaction." Now, seeing words like yours proves the…

This is still a massive improvement over the Cold War, though.

Aside from the small detail that we appear to be losing, this time.

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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What blows my mind is everyone is so concerned about Huawei and friends, and yet they still use Windows and other Microsoft products. Now _that_ is a true national security threat.

Microsoft and Google provide the government access to most homes and businesses. They are effective tools the government will keep close to the chest. Each and every keyboard input gets collected as technical telemetry data. It's the global version of the more upfront Workplace Analytics your empowered employer is scanning constantly as dwellers in shadows. All parties play Good cop Bad cop but are eating the fruits…

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