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Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

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Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

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It’s a nice surprise to check HN and have my project featured on the front page. Thanks polm23 for posting and everyone else for the nice words!

Thank you for creating this!

I'm an avid user of RSS and Atom, and I absolutely loathe email subscriptions (although I understand why many groups use them), so a tool to remove that friction for admittedly rare people like me is wonderful. Thank you for running this service, I intend to use it quite a lot!

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

#113
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What's wrong with email newsletters? I actually like them quite a bit.

To me, email is a two way communication tool, and while getting one way communication is perfectly fine in email, just getting updates from an org or on some topic or from a journalist makes way more sense using syndication than subscription. Particularly, the client/recipient handles getting the messages as opposed to the publisher.

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

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You have to view and manage and then delete them. 99% of my inboxes are emails from non-humans. I'm ready to stream them like RSS or Twitter.. and catch the ones I care about.

You don’t have to do those things. The earth will not stop if there are unread emails in your inbox.

Some people, such as myself, try to reduce the noise around us as much as possible. Every person and their grandmother flooding your inbox is a lot of noise.

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

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For non-personalized newsletters it's pretty useless for you to give out an email address. No one's ever gonna address you individually so all it creates are potential privacy issues if you give out your real email address. The only benefit I can see even for non-personalized newsletters is that you have it in your mailbox and can use your normal email filtering tools to deal with newsletter messages.

it creates are potential privacy issues if you give out your real email address Is this the same class of privacy issue as, say, subscribing to a print journal that is delivered directly to your place of residence (as opposed to a post office box)? I think you could even argue that using anonymized email addresses for your newsletter subscriptions could be the digital equivalent of a PO box, right?

I'd say, imagine that for material you want, you have to ask for it rather than someone just deciding to send you whatever they want to send you. RSS and Atom are basically ways to organize and automate requesting desired data on a schedule. This means that using these formats, nobody can send you junk that you don't want.

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

#116

How about... we do both? Because it's not exactly too much effort to set up an atom and rss feed to go along with your email newsletter. Can we stop (subtly in this case, not so subtly in others) crusading against tech that we don't personally like, when thousands upon thousands rely on it because that's the format they're comfortable with and want to receive periodicals in? Set up a system that meets people where th…

Well, tools like this one enable a publisher to pick their format and enable a user to pick their format, so it's kind of the opposite of flaming your less desired format. It's a compatibility layer.

People who flame a format they don't like are just trying to ensure that their preferred one stays relevant. I am not a fan of email subscription and I love Atom and RSS. If I didn't constantly remind people about the pros of feeds and the cons of email subscriptions, before I know it most websites will drop feeds and pop up asking me to subscribe to their newsletter...

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

#117

I think we should go the opposite way. I think we should push more onto email. email is pretty ubiquitous. Nearly everyone online has email. It's as close to universal as anything else for accessing people. Instead of having a dozen different chat apps, push chats to email. Instead of a half dozen Slack wannabe apps, push all that to email. We should expand the email protocol to support that.

While we are at it, let's put everything you could possibly need into the browser...

Sure, a little snarky but I'm getting my point across. We have different tools because different situations require different tools. IM exists because it is used differently than email, and email is not well suited to real time back and forth short messages. Atom and RSS feeds exist because honestly someone doesn't need to know your email address for you to take an interest in what they publish.

Re: Kill the Newsletter – Convert email newsletters into Atom feeds

#120
I love this. I have missed a lot of great newsletters because of a false positive spam detection.

As a content creator, I also would love to see the comeback of RSS VS email, as services like mailchimp can get expensive really fast for projects that not seek profit like a personal blog.

A simple wordpress, ghost or even blogspot scales more cheaply than all the requirements for massive email.

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