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K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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PSA: if you've not used it in awhile, use the betas via F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.fsck.k9/ You have to click "Versions" from the F-Droid app and specifically opt-in (and upgrade) the betas, F-Droid will default to installing the older stable version. The betas are almost night (mode heh) and day apart, the UI and operations have almost a complete overhaul from the old days and it looks (and works)…

This is huge! Thanks for sharing.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Which leads to the question about why it was removed...

Something to do with issues with newer Android no longer permitting the background connection to remain open for battery saving purposes, I think?

I am not using the beta version of K-9. I was able to make it work mostly correctly on Android 11 by setting it to "Not Optimized" in the battery power permissions. That will allow it to run in the background. It seems to be able to use IDLE and to also run its periodic polling that way. Otherwise I would open K-9 and it would be hours out of date.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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I used K-9 back in my Android days (5+ years ago). It's biggest weakness was, and to my knowledge, still is, inability to support modern OAuth authentication schemes that Google and Microsoft have largely switched to. Sometimes I get a notification from a comment on the GitHub issue still. It used to be able to connect to Exchange servers, but hasn't been able to for nearly a decade.

What exactly do you need this for? If it's for authenticating with their IMAP/SMTP, app passwords have worked for me with Gmail, even on 2FA-secured G Suite accounts. No idea about Microsoft though.

You can't get them on _non_ 2fa gsuite for example .

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Delta Chat has a lot of good stuff. What I need and what I think most businesses need is Delta Email instead of Delta Chat.

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP. The semantics are different enough that both models have a reason to exist and complement each other: - With email you write to a specific address. With NNTP you write to a group. In a business you almost always want to target multiple people, because activity is interesting (and relevant) to many people. - To solve that we have a hack that is mailing lists…

Message editing is supported over NNTP with Supersedes: header.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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jesus christ gmail is absolutely unusable both on the desktop and on mobile. the only way to make it usable again is to switch to the plain html mode, that uses no javascript, loads very fast, and reminds me a lot of the first gmail ui, back from ~15 years go.

I've really enjoyed using the Simplify Gmail extension when I use Gmail on desktop. Just launched a new v2 that's very nice. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/simplify-gmail/pbm...

I'm having none of that crap.

Injecting non-google code inside my gmail window sounds like a very dumb idea to me, honestly.

I already trust google very little and keep my gmail inbox because I'm basically being coerced/forced to (no gmail = no apps on android)... The last thing I want is adding another entity to the picture.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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post #54

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jesus christ gmail is absolutely unusable both on the desktop and on mobile. the only way to make it usable again is to switch to the plain html mode, that uses no javascript, loads very fast, and reminds me a lot of the first gmail ui, back from ~15 years go.

Imagine if they just used an SSE or mixed-replace to update the plain html version in real-time when messages are received without JS. But we can’t have that (Google even unilaterally disabled mixed-replace in blink/Chrome/Chromium (except for continuing to support MJPEG) many, many years ago so no one else can do that either).

Imagine if they had just fu--ing kept gmail lean and slick as it was in the first days.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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I use K9 for a small LLC, and would like to support the developer. My CPA advises that anonymous[1]/charitable contributions are not tax deductible business expenses. However, if the recipient publicly acknowledges your sponsorship, it's considered an "advertising" expense. To accept contributions from small corporations using your app, consider offering a low-friction non-charitable service such as a one-year placem…

I understand it's difficult for a company to give money to an open source project. But none of the options you've mentioned sound very appealing to me.

GitHub displays the avatars of sponsors. Maybe that's an option that satisfies the "acknowledges sponsorship" criterion? https://github.com/sponsors/cketti

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