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Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by kevincox »

superkuh wrote: post #27
_y5hn wrote: post #23

QuiteRSS works well. It's for both Windows and Linux. https://quiterss.org/ No affiliation, just a satisfied user.

I second that. If you have a lot of feeds, thousands, then QuiteRSS is one of the readers that will work reliably. It can be ram heavy with 1k+ feeds but it does the job. In the article the author mentions one way to get RSS feeds from a youtube channel. This is how to get it from a youtube username, https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?user=USER_ID

The YouTube channel pages are also marked up properly so most tools will auto-discover the feed URL.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by jamesponddotco »

knubie wrote: post #46
stevekemp wrote: post #36

RSS is awesome! I never got the hang of using a read-application, instead I use rss2email to get copies of posts delivered to my inbox. There are a few different tools for getting the feeds to email, my own is a pretty simple golang application I run in a docker-container: https://github.com/skx/rss2email/

I would actually like the opposite of this. Having newsletters and other such “no-reply” emails go directly to an RSS feed.

Feedbin[1], my feed reader of choice, has that. They give you a random email address that you can use to receive newsletters in your feed and automatically have them tagged.

[1] https://feedbin.com/

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by jedimastert »

djhworld wrote: post #38

I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

On the one hand, I hate that as a user. On the other hand, I'd love to know how many people actually read a story.

I haven't found a good solution, but I just suck it up and serve the full text anyways

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by MayeulC »

djhworld wrote: post #38

I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

Some RSS readers implement something similar. I currently use nextcloud news, that does this: https://github.com/nextcloud/news/pull/563

Basically, for feeds where I have "full text" enabled, it fetches the article page with mozilla's "reader mode" implementation and extracts the full text.

It isn't really usable with aggregators such as planet kde/gnome, though.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by danShumway »

djhworld wrote: post #38

I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

> I've never open sourced it though because I guess it's a bit of a grey area

For whatever it's worth, I do click-through RSS feeds on my blogs just because I was too lazy to set up full text feeds and figure out how stuff like video would work and whether or not it would be a better end-user experience to alter the content in some way on style-heavy pages. Right now I'm constructing the feed myself. But if someone ever wanted to use a tool like you're describing on my blogs, I would have no objection. Don't feel guilty about scraping a site I build or building tools to do so, if anything it would make me feel less guilty about never getting around to setting up full-text RSS feeds. :)

I don't run ads or analytics anyway, but even if I did, as far as I'm concerned anyone who has the right to visit a page also has the right to download it, and to use automated tools to download it on their behalf[0].

I don't see any moral difference between using an adblocker and scraping a web page. Both are hitting the same endpoints and selectively displaying content that the user wants to see.

[0]: https://anewdigitalmanifesto.com/#right-to-delegate

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by kgwxd »

k1m wrote: post #45
kgwxd wrote: post #12

To me, one of the most important features of RSS is not having to reskim over titles I've already dismissed. I don't even mind that most feeds don't have any content, the links are good enough for my needs. I really wish AP and Reuters would bring back RSS, I'd no longer have any reason to open a site just to skim headlines. Some might argue that is the reason news sites stopped offering RSS, but I don't think it rea…

If you're okay with feeds generated from the home pages of those sites, the Feed Creator project I work on can generate feeds for them: * Reuters: https://createfeed.fivefilters.org/index.php?url=https%3A%2F... * AP: https://createfeed.fivefilters.org/index.php?url=https%3A%2F... Relying on the underlying HTML attributes of the page to generate the feed does make these feeds much more brittle, but it's one option whe…

Thanks, I'll give them a try.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by kgwxd »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #31
kgwxd wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm perfectly happy just getting headlines with links, which seems most common these days, at least for what I subscribe to. It requires I go to their site to get the content where they can (try to) shove anything they want in my face and run whatever trackers they normally do.

This why I personally gave up RSS. I used to enjoy reading things in my RSS reader where I could set things up to be clear to me. Once they started providing only links back to the WWW browser where everything was hard to read I gave up and now I just suffer reading in the WWW browser and frankly don't read nearly half as much online content as a result.

To me, the time saved not having to rescan headlines alone is worth it. Even if the title was just "New Article" for every item and I had to open each one to see what it was, the time saved would still probably be worth it.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by justnotworthit »

Im a podcast/youtube addict, yet I havent found a good use of youtube's RSS feed. I'd love for channels and playlists to be as simple as podcast feeds, but YT doesn't want to be a file server.

1) They block you from watching outside of youtube, so you still need the site to watch

1a) Or do a unix'y combination with youtube-dl; file management; etc

1b) Or use a service or tool that comes, gets broken, goes; (podsync, youcast)

2) Adding rss feeds one by one is tedious. Podcast Addict for android helps, but can't mark as read, and other limitations. So I still need the site to manage subscriptions

2a) There's no way to get a "my user" RSS that has all my subscriptions, even if I wanted that

3) etc etc etc.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by PascalW »

jamesponddotco wrote: post #105

I think my digital life would be a mess without an RSS feed reader. Because of its existence I do not need to touch Twitter, Reddit, YouTube[1], or any Mastodon instance, for example, as I can just have the updates that interest me from these networks in the comfort of my Feedbin[2] feed. While Hacker News does not provide an interface that notifies you when someone replies to you, hnrss.org provides an RSS feed for…

Thanks I'm an RSS nut too but didn't know about hnrss. Super useful to keep track of replies.
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