“Tencent QQ caught scraping all browser history on Windows”

Post by hexhu » Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 2:22 AM UTC

hexhu wrote: post #91

raion on V2EX[1][2] reverse-engineered Tencent QQ's scraping code and acquired the list of URLs and keywords: 1. S.TAOBAO.COM/SEARCH? 2. LIST.TMALL.COM/SEARCH_PRODUCT.HTM? 3. (30, 0xDDA1029, 0x9E67F3BB, 0xB18ACC45, 0x597CF438): b'', # not yet decoded 4. SEARCH.JD.COM/SEARCH? Keyword Group 1: 5. 古着 (kanji meaning old cloths) 6. VINTAGE Keyword Group 2: 7. 融券 (margin trading-short) 8. 融资 (financing) Keyword Group 3: 9.…

Post by etrabroline » Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 2:34 AM UTC

im3w1l wrote: post #54

Iolaum wrote: post #27

Apart from a lot of other issues mentioned here, this looks to me for a good argument of app sandboxing. It is a thing on mobile but not much on the desktop.

I disagree. It's better to let them do shady shit and get caught and never trust them again.

Post by zepto » Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:46 AM UTC

oblio wrote: post #102

zepto wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“If alternative stores can't give sufficient security guarantees, then users will prefer the official one.” Nope. Users will use the stores where the apps they want are. Players starting new stores will just pay for exclusives of popular apps, so that users are forced to install other stores, which will of course claim to support privacy and security in marketing terms that have no substance. Android is why it is cle…

> Android is why it is clearly wrong to intervene in Apple’s secure store. Why is Android wrong? The sky hasn't fallen over on the Android side. Android's security woes are caused by lack of updates from carriers (which frequently delay or block Android updates), OEMs (which frequently don't bother to port security updates because they want to sell the newest devices, shenanigans similar to those pulled by Apple unti…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 1:03 PM UTC

zepto wrote: post #116

oblio wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about that? Chinese phones use Chine app stores because Google products are banned in China, but outside of China 99% of apps are installed through the Play Store. Why would iOS be any different?

Because iOS has a very profitable app ecosystem that deep pocketed competitors (such as Google, Facebook, and Amazon) would buy into. You can’t seriously imagine that at least these three plus TenCent/Epic wouldn’t create stores, likely within their existing Apps.

Post by zepto » Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 10:57 PM UTC

leppr wrote: post #118

zepto wrote: post #115

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Android isn’t wrong at all. That’s my point. The market provides an option for people who want an open phone and for those who don’t .

Especially with Apple, the ecosystems are so big that the choice given to users is weak. Do users chose between an open phone and a closed one, or between a phone that connects with their laptop and their earphones, or a phone that can Facetime™ their friends and family? Same kind of problem with presidential elections in democratic republics. Closed systems limit choice.