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Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by astrange »

thotsBgone wrote: post #19
toper-centage wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is data driven and AB tests the hell out of their features, so I would assume these changes make them money somehow. Your personal preferences or anyone else's is merely a very small data point in their design process.

Yes, companies are profit-driven always. Not customer-satisfaction driven, unless that's what will bring them the most profit (especially true for newer, smaller companies). This makes me wonder if there is some structure similar to a corporation which would maximise something besides profit, without either being out-competed by a corporation or turning into one.

Public companies are driven by what their executives want, insofar as their owners aren't paying attention. If they were pure paperclip maximizers they would switch businesses more often, but you don't see coal plants selling fentanyl out the back.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by astrange »

kungito wrote: post #17
gchokov wrote: post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

I'm pretty sure that the big corps are changing the design based on some toxic metrics where they don't really care if we, a small demographic of power users, get annoyed all the time

I think the power users are actually just perpetually annoyed, find software features to assign it to, and then we end up with reverse causation.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by rcoveson »

aaron695 wrote: post #50

PirateBay for images is back! Not complaining, I love using the PirateBay to steal. I also don't makeup reasons I do it. It's for theft, because getting something of value for free feels good.

> It's for theft, because getting something of value for free feels good.

I love this too. I steal the mountain air when I hit the trails, I steal the sounds of nearby conversations, and I steal the memories of songs I've heard. Sometimes a friend will sing me something, and I steal that too. I play my music loud sometimes, and I hope those around me steal it.

I've stolen things at my job from my coworkers, little ideas that belong to my company. They'll breed and have child ideas, stolen children, which I will make available for theft by others down the road.

I even stole your comment; it had a little value, in its way. I won't pay you for it, even if you ask. In fact, if you ever write something and seal it away behind copyright, I can't promise I won't read it at a library in the future; you wouldn't see a dime.

Finally: If anybody ever asks me for something I know, or something I am capable of reciting--be it music, poetry, fiction, whatever--I will help them steal it by repeating it. I will not turn them away out of some unnatural commitment to the idea that all valuable information has an owner who must "get theirs" in advance of any transfer.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by anothernewdude »

de6u99er wrote: post #102
gchokov wrote: post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

I disabled YouTube on my Android phone, and use it in the browser instead. It is heavily overloaded with functionality, that any accidental touch results in an unwanted action. Google Search on mobile browsers is horrible too. When having a typo in the search terms and trying to fix it, the search field moves to the top of the screen and it constantly happens that I click on the second or third entry in the list of s…

I cannot recommend the combination of NewPipe and VLC enough. Have to get NewPipe on your own, because it disables youtube ads as well so it's not on the Play Store.

It's been the only offline youtube solution I've found.

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Post by jjoonathan »

userbinator wrote: post #73
neilpanchal wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many things that bother me about contemporary UI in general, I ranted on here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24965293 I sincerely feel that the discipline of building user interfaces is long lost and perhaps never to come back. From car dashboards to loud typography, the whole field is regressing. Minimalism, too much white space, infantilization of users, design trends, loss of pred…

Minimalism, too much white space Those two tend to be related. It really angers me every time I see a huge amount of whitespace for no good reason, but then most of the functionality is hidden behind a dropdown menu whose equally stupid '...' indicator only shows up when you happen to hover over it. WTF. Back when UIs were still good, things would usually be hidden only if there wasn't enough space. You could see alm…

Hamburgers and Hieroglyphs are where UX goes to die.

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Post by pottertheotter »

neilpanchal wrote: post #51
gchokov wrote: post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

There are so many things that bother me about contemporary UI in general, I ranted on here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24965293 I sincerely feel that the discipline of building user interfaces is long lost and perhaps never to come back. From car dashboards to loud typography, the whole field is regressing. Minimalism, too much white space, infantilization of users, design trends, loss of pred…

I agree with you overall, but diskprices is far from perfect UI. The layout of the information and how it is accessed is useful. But other design elements, such as color, would make it better.

One of the best designed products I've ever used is the TiVo DVR. We first got one in 1999, the year it came out. I loved it, but realized how well it was designed when I started using other DVRs in the mid 2000s. As a prime example, to delete an episode on a TiVo required pressing one button. On another DVR I had it was six button presses! It was like this for countless things. It was obvious the folks at TiVo had thought long and hard about usability and design and other manufacturers couldn't care less.

Now imagine if TiVo made their remote a rectangular cuboid with hard edges, and all the buttons were hard plastic squares that were all the same color. It would still be much easier for me to delete an episode on the TiVo than on other DVRs, but holding and using the remote would not be a positive experience. Putting some work into the remote so it fits in your hands, the buttons are nice to press, and color and shape of buttons helps you find the button you want would make it so much better (thankfully they did).

Diskprices is similar to the hypothetical TiVo with a crappy remote. Someone worked hard on some aspects of design and usability, but out of either ignorance or arrogance ignored the rest of the aspects.

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Post by iaml »

userbinator wrote: post #99
andai wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep hearing about these secret iOS features. Is there a manual or something I should have read?

But "modern" software is perfectly usable without documentation! /s I miss the days when software actually came with very detailed documentation for the user. They had their hidden features too, but at least there was documentation for them.

Both ios and android have 'tips' app that fulfills this role and are hard to miss since they spam notifications at you.

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by Proven »

markdown wrote: post #20
gkoberger wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with Getty? They spend a lot of money to take pictures, and other people pay money to use them. How would you change their business model? EDIT: I hadn't realized that Getty is the reason for the removal of the view image button! I stand by my comment in general, however I do think removing that button is crappy.

Getty charges $1000 for public domain photos. Fuck 'em! EDIT: They also fraudulently claim to own public domain photos and legally threaten people who use them, demanding payment.

> Getty charges $1000 for public domain photos. Fuck 'em!

Why is that a problem? You don't have to pay for their services, and you can get the same photos elsewhere.

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Post by unixhero »

nostromo wrote: post #68
neilpanchal wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many things that bother me about contemporary UI in general, I ranted on here the other day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24965293 I sincerely feel that the discipline of building user interfaces is long lost and perhaps never to come back. From car dashboards to loud typography, the whole field is regressing. Minimalism, too much white space, infantilization of users, design trends, loss of pred…

This soulless corporate style of illustration not a single person likes: https://www.imgur.com/DcL05OA.gif (This could be a subset of infantilization, since this art style seems to come from books for toddlers.)

To be fair, the guy in the top right tile is a lucky guy!

Re: Google Images Restored

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Post by supersour »

de6u99er wrote: post #102
gchokov wrote: post #5

Someone in Google’s UX and Design department, really needs go out and breathe some fresh air. Is it only me, who dislikes 95% of the design decision of Google products in the recent years?

I disabled YouTube on my Android phone, and use it in the browser instead. It is heavily overloaded with functionality, that any accidental touch results in an unwanted action. Google Search on mobile browsers is horrible too. When having a typo in the search terms and trying to fix it, the search field moves to the top of the screen and it constantly happens that I click on the second or third entry in the list of s…

Speaking of Youtube "mods", has anyone created any tools that provide a unique related videos algorithm or the like?

I find that the rabbit holes I went on years ago were much more interesting than the content I see on youtube now, and I don't think it's that the content is getting worse.

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