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BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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Awesome project! But please compress your images, it took me 2 minutes to load your website. Convert everything to <300kb progressive jpg and use svg for graphics.

OK.

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=... score still isn't great, but at least the images aren't the bottleneck anymore. The site is in the process of a grand rebuild that should get rid of the recurring jquery loads, but that's a few months away.

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

#112

"Open source" with nvidia hardware? Good luck with that

nvdla is actually open source including (most?) of the low level software: https://github.com/nvdla

correct, no NVIDIA hardware, just their NVDLA project which is open source. http://nvdla.org.

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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It wouldn't need to be a spinning disk, I'm think SSD or NVME

I still need to run an SSD off of a powered hub for an RPi to use it stably.

Strange. What Pi? I’ve had a spinning 2.5” HDD connected to a Pi 3B+ for a few years now.

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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Looks like their Hard IP is proprietary but based on open high-level designs such as Rocket and BOOM. The peripherals situation is mixed, but they've stated in the past that they're quite OK with using open designs whenever feasible.

The high-level design is proprietary too. As I said elsewhere, SiFive CPUs are just as closed as Arm ones, you just pay a royalty to SiFive instead of Arm.

> The high-level design is proprietary too.

They have source code files for their 'Freedom' core designs up on GitHub under an Apache 2.x license. These can be directly used to evaluate their designs as FPGA soft-cores.

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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I've been unable to use Beagle boards in the past as they ship with an old kernel and uboot without the sources to update or config them (this was specifically with the black variant). It probably had something to do with vendor NDAs with chipsets or something but it made them entirely unusable to me and more expensive than competitors by almost 2x to boot.

I would love a RISC-V board to play with that is a bit more stable and about the size of a Raspberry Pi within a reasonable price range. The SiFive development boards are pretty pricey, definitely showcase hardware (look at all these peripherals or this is basically a desktop computer!).

I'm hoping with the explicit call out of open hardware and open software that this board won't have the same issues as the Beaglebone Black...

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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I think in the real world "No percentage of each sale payments to ARM" is what will drive RISC-V. An "open" ISA doesn't force anything else to be open. So, use cases like Western Digital, where they can quit paying ARM a percentage of every hard drive they sell, for example. As for technical advantages, each RISCV vendor has their own choice of how to implement, so it's hard to say anything broad that applies to all…

> quit paying ARM a percentage The percentage is very small, though. So this argument only works for very high volume use cases, which is why the RISC-V eval boards are currently far more expensive than comparable ARMs. Do WD do their own silicon yet, or do they just buy the parts?

How many ARM microcontrollers are low volume? Pretty much all of the examples I can think of are incredibly high volume. STM32, SAMD21/51, i.MX, etc.

WD said they were finishing taping out their first production design about a year and a half ago, so I assume they have started shipping them at this point, but it's hard to find info.

Re: BeagleV – An affordable RISC-V computer designed to run Linux

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Is there something inherently complicated in adding a SATA/M.2 port to board like this? The RaspberryPi is also "disk-less", which to me is one of the major limitations. It's a super interesting little board, and I love that it's a RISC-V, that could really help getting the CPU in the hands of people. I just don't know enough about these things to understand why there are no storage connectors (other than an SD card…

Why would you need SATA when you have SD, also USB3 and Gigabit Ethernet? I have no problem booting from the SD then accessing data on my SATA drives using a USB-attached controller, also plan to get a NAS. Sure, it would be great to have connectors for everything and support for every cool standard but these guys have to give up all what is non-essential to keep it small, cheap and possible to engineer by a small te…

Honestly I just wish there was a faster standard than SD. 100MB/s for solid state is just incredibly slow now-a-days.

There's no reason you couldn't kick SD transfer speeds up towards SSD speeds other than the protocol doesn't allow for it.

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