> AWS is also breaching it contract with Parler, which requires AWS to provide Parler with a thirty-day notice before
terminating service
Well, that's not cool nor fair.
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#112Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…
I'm really scared to trust Greenwald on anything political at the moment.
For a start, the silencing competitors argument doesn't really work with AWS because they just do hosting.
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#1131). AWS can suspend service for any customer immediately upon giving that customer notice. They do not have to provide a "remediation period" or give the customer any grace time at all. Every customer agrees to this as part of the AWS Customer Agreement 2). AWS can terminate an account immediately if they deem you in violation of their policies instead of a suspension - as was the case with Parler. It's all in the AW…
The question is whether that's legal, or anticompetitive
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Twitter has a moderation policy and applied it. Parler didn’t and didn’t apply anything. Edit: also fuck everyone related to Parler. Read in detail: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/johnpaczkowski/amazon-p...
This just isn't true. We can argue whether or not Parler was not moderating correctly - but to imply they did not have a policy against violence is not true: 6. Threats of Violence, Advocacy of Imminent Lawless Action, Threats to Dox, Bribery or Criminal Solicitation So-called “fighting words” are not a violation of our Guidelines.2 6.1 However, reported parleys, comments, or messages sent using our service will be d…
Since the previous comment where you said this is dead, I'll repeat my response here: Amazon presented Parler with a list of violent posts that they had reported to Parler and that Parler had refused to remove. The whole letter Amazon sent to Parler was reported out by Buzzfeed, including screenshots of the violent posts that Parler did not remove.
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#115Paragraph 5 seems pretty damaging if AWS really did violate their contract as claimed.
Unless they have a different agreement from the standard User Agreement, AWS Custom Agreement[0] 7.2(b)(ii) states that:
(ii) By Us. We may also terminate this Agreement
immediately upon notice to you (A) for cause if we have
the right to suspend under Section 6, (B) if our
relationship with a third-party partner who provides
software or other technology we use to provide the Service
Offerings expires, terminates or requires us to change the
way we provide the software or other technology as part of
the Services, or (C) in order to comply with the law or
requests of governmental entities.
(a) your or an End User’s use of the Service Offerings
(i) poses a security risk to the Service Offerings or any
third party, (ii) could adversely impact our systems, the
Service Offerings or the systems or Content of any other
AWS customer, (iii) could subject us, our affiliates, or
any third party to liability, or (iv) could be fraudulent;
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
They already had plenty of enemies on the left. Now they got a ton more on the right. Elon Musk was just tweeting about the hatred headed their way. Time to check my investments.
Left or right? No no, it's got nothing to do with that. They're in trouble because they've now got enemies in power. Did you notice things only move when those in power are threatened?
I didn't notice much 2009-2017.
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#117Parler has a moderation policy and they don’t apply it. Content that promotes illegal activity is not protected free speech and is also prohibited by Parler’s policies. They selectively applied that moderation after they became popular with MAGA. Also, 4chan exists why can’t Parler find a host?
> Also, 4chan exists why can’t Parler find a host?
Although I agree that 4chan is problematic sometimes, many people that just put blame on it don't actually use it.
I remember when Netflix's Cuties was released, 4chan prohibited posting any image/video from the show
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#118> AWS is also breaching it contract with Parler, which requires AWS to provide Parler with a thirty-day notice before terminating service Well, that's not cool nor fair.
Or true.
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#119Glenn Greenwald has been investigating the planning of the Capitol protests and says "it was largely done on Facebook". So far he hasn't been able to identify a single person who was arrested and active on Parler: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? Zero. The planning was largely done on Facebook. This is all a bullshit pretext for silenci…
The guy in the fur hat was arrested and had a Parler.
This isn't hard. The majority of people arrested had Parler accounts -- it's everywhere.
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#120Amazon may have the right to deny anyone service - but can they do it 'immediately' on whatever grounds? Parler could very well make more money suing Amazon than anything else. This was a huge moment for Parler, and AMZN may have grounded them. There's a difference between 'we don't want to do business with you' ... and 'we will make you dependent on us, but the we'll drop you like a rock and put you out of business'…
> we will make you dependent on us
How on Earth did Amazon "make" Parler rely on Amazon exclusively?