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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

ve55 wrote: post #4

It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…

You can always use a web site so long as DNS is working and even then there are options. It's more surreal that the internet has devolved into a medium for proprietary apps designed to capture as much of people's identity as possible. Access via web empowers the end user to control what data they send and receive. You'd think these wannabe revolutionaries would get on board with it.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by sigotirandolas »

jonhohle wrote: post #74

I’m glad that private businesses have the ability and confidence to restrict government speech on their platforms. What I find concerning, however, is a large group of companies which are direct competitors of each other are acting unilaterally to the ban same users on platforms completely unrelated.

I mean, given the current situation, which company wouldn’t do something so that if another event as bad or worse as the Capitol storming happens, they can say “look, we did all we could! It didn’t happen due to our platform!”

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by jmull »

ve55 wrote: post #4

It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…

> it appears to be in a bit of a feedback loop as well, since it's obvious that deplatforming groups will make them feel persecuted and even more upset

To me it seems obvious the feedback works in the opposite direction. Deplatforming disrupts the feedback bubbles that radicalize these people.

I personally think they should be allowed to have their space anyway, if they can refrain from inciting violence.

But I would certainly absolutely refuse to do business with them, and have no problem with others making the same decision. People have the right to their repugnant ideas. They don’t have the right to force others to help promote them.

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Post by doubt_me »

jedberg wrote: post #7

I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading. People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

Shut the fuck up jed

Reddit is the whole reason why 5 people are dead.

What will it take until the tech community realizes this comment couldn't be further from reality.

You are all going to wait until one of these deranged psychos does another Las Vegas?

You are all going to wait until your own kids are dead? Is that what it takes?

I'm not a huge fan of Reddit, but hopefully this pushes the government to force spez into hiring some expensive lawyers so he can get a slap in the face while half the country burns down and innocent people die.

so convenient for a techie to say they should be able to run parler.

Sounds like something a russian shill would say. What the fuck is wrong with you people. none of this bullshit is normal.

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Post by ceejayoz »

de6u99er wrote: post #35

Since Trump announced to create his own social media platform after all the bans, does anyone think he will announce now his own smartphone and mobile OS?

Right after he finishes that healthcare plan that's been coming "in two weeks" for several years now.

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Post by Reedx »

ve55 wrote: post #4

It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…

They could ban Signal too.

Edit: Signal is now #1 on the app store. Speech that was removed will obviously just migrate and be encrypted. Though not as public, the actual speech is still going to be communicated between people and groups. So why wouldn't Signal be next?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by ceejayoz »

throwawaysea wrote: post #77

I am really disappointed that it has come to this. In a short few days we have normalized: 1. Twitter picking political winners and losers, where they ban some accounts like Trump but allow others (like the Chinese or Iranian government, like BLM associated rioters, etc.) to post whatever they want. 2. Collusion between different tech companies all adopting the same policy in lock step, with no real choice (no real m…

> where they ban some accounts like Trump but allow others (like the Chinese or Iranian government, like BLM associated rioters, etc.) to post whatever they want

The removal of the "governments are exempted" rule appears to be beyond just Trump. Twitter notably removed a tweet last night from the Chinese government promoting their abuse of the Uighurs: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/twitter-takes-do...

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Post by bpodgursky »

wrs wrote: post #110

Hey free speech absolutists: Given the venue, I’m guessing some of you work with distributed systems, right? What’s happening now is called a “circuit breaker”. When you have an emergency in progress and your system is melting down, you pull the plug and let the fire go out while you figure out what the heck is happening. We had nearly absolute free speech on the internet and we got a delusional psycho mob organizing…

Do you legitimately think the patronizing is effective, or do you just do it to feel good?
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