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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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That voice announcing evacuation sounds very professional, not like a computer synthesized voice... I wonder if they will try to trace that.

If they do, it will be a case of no good deed going unpunished.

Lol Feel sorry for the dude on fiverr about to get his loft tossed by alphabet boys

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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post #99

> I think bombers broadcasting warning messages is somewhat more common with certain types of political violence. I know weather underground bombings tried to choose times for their bombings when buildings would not be inhabited, not always successfully. Just wanted to point out that dressing things up as "political violence" is a disservice; violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism.…

Your definition is not quite accurate. Some forms of violence performed to promote an ideology are called war. In fact, war is by far the most common, and the most destructive form of 'violence used to promote an ideology'.

Perhaps war is a form of terrorism.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Was pretty common (though not consistent) for the IRA to phone ahead to warn where they'd put bombs.

Ironically it was on an occasion when a bomb was phoned in that led to the single biggest atrocity during the troubles. 29 people killed by a cat bomb in Omagh. We may not be living in peace today has it not happened

What’s a cat bomb?

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#114

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If they do, it will be a case of no good deed going unpunished.

It's a good deed that they broadcast this message? Why a rational human would broadcast this message- a) The penalties if there were deaths would be much, much more severe. The manpower involved in the hunt would be exponentially larger. b) They have some other goal that would be sabotaged if there were deaths. c) They have morality and can rationalize bombing buildings, but not killing people. This isn't a "good dee…

Isn't acting out of a sense of morality the definition of a 'good deed'?

Granted, bombing stuff hardly classifies but if you decide it's necessary to bomb something, preventing unnecessary harm for moral reasons could still be seen as a 'good deed'.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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That voice announcing evacuation sounds very professional, not like a computer synthesized voice... I wonder if they will try to trace that.

Many of the current neural net voice synthesis engines are fantastic and sound extremely real. Amazon Polly for instance. I'd punch in the phrase and do some comparisons, but given the attention those logs will certainly get maybe I won't.

Neural net synth would be even easier to trace. It’s quite hard to set up an aws account via untraceable currency and an untraceable phone. I did it when I was 25 or so, and it took about three weeks of planning and execution just to get the cards and phone.

Given the sophistication of the attack, I wouldn’t say it’s impossible they have neural net experience. But as someone who spent a good chunk of time trying to get Dr Kleiner to sing (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=koU3L7WBz_s) it wasn’t remotely easy a year ago to do this locally.

Using “say foo” in macOS would’ve been the most straightforward solution, I think.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#116
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was pretty common (though not consistent) for the IRA to phone ahead to warn where they'd put bombs.

Ironically it was on an occasion when a bomb was phoned in that led to the single biggest atrocity during the troubles. 29 people killed by a cat bomb in Omagh. We may not be living in peace today has it not happened

*car bomb

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

#117

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Yeah, I fully expect more incidences like this to happen all over the world. The incentives, socioeconomic backdrop, technical feasibility, and widely accessible tech are all enablers.

The cognitive dissonance and total denial is off the charts with telecom and tech leaders who don't realize (or care) that their massive growth has played a large role in global civil unrest. The general public is terrified and angry at the rapidly shifting technological landscape and the changes in social norms that come with it. Trust in technology is at a low, and for good reason. We have titanic businesses with a…

> The cognitive dissonance and total denial is off the charts with telecom and tech leaders who don't realize (or care) that their massive growth has played a large role in global civil unrest.

I wouldn't leave out leaders in other industries as well: finance, energy, etc… TBTF/ TBTJ policies can incentivize this type of stuff as all other options to date seem to cause no effective changes.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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In the UK I've only ever encountered diesel fuelled generators with tanks usually long enough to run the DC for hours if not days. Easy to see in hindsight, but I guess I'm slightly surprised at the use of generators running off mains gas for this very reason. Does anyone know how common this is in the USA? Liveleak actually has some security camera footage with audio of the recording: https://www.liveleak.com/view?t…

Anecdote: In my experience, a small but sizeable number of homes in suburban areas that are still outside the city enough to be affected by weather-related power outages every several months have whole-home generators connected to city natural gas lines. Growing up in one of these areas, there was the occasional power outage (once a year or so at most) but I can't recall any gas line outages. Those who had whole-home…

I'm more surprised that Nashville has city gas. It's not a very cold climate. It almost never even snows there.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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> I think bombers broadcasting warning messages is somewhat more common with certain types of political violence. I know weather underground bombings tried to choose times for their bombings when buildings would not be inhabited, not always successfully. Just wanted to point out that dressing things up as "political violence" is a disservice; violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism.…

> violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism. Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. There are certainly people who believe both or either of those were terrorism.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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post #99

> I think bombers broadcasting warning messages is somewhat more common with certain types of political violence. I know weather underground bombings tried to choose times for their bombings when buildings would not be inhabited, not always successfully. Just wanted to point out that dressing things up as "political violence" is a disservice; violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism.…

> violence performed in the commision of promoting an ideology is terrorism. Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?

> Was the invasion of Iraq terrorism? What about the Boston tea party?

Yes, pretty clearly. Just because you might agree doesn't diminish it. After all, a terrorist is just a freedom fighter depending on the observer.

edit: Instead of downvotes because you disagree, why not point out the error in my thinking?

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