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The Internet Is for Porn

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Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please provide a reputable source?

Can you provide an opposing source?

I didn't make a claim or refute yours, I was asking for a source for what you believe is disputed in the academic community.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#112
post #16

This is a super good read, if you have 10 minutes I highly recommend. I have absolutely no problems with pornography and if my own daughter decided this was the industry she wanted to enter I would help jumpstart her career anyway I could just as I would any career she chose. My wife and I are very free spirits and the previous HN discussions on Pornhub / NYT article made me feel like I was taking crazy pills and liv…

For what it's worth, I agree with you, and I'm shocked at the attitudes here. Don't worry, you're not the crazy one.

I wrote a few lines of speculation, but all of them would piss people off. Suffice to say, just ignore the negativity and express your opinions thoughtfully, as you did here.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The outer World is not the place where people will find what comforts them. Imagine forcing asexuality on the vast majority of the people in the World (and in history) that are not asexual. The remarks around pedophilia sound more like a competitor trying to push an agenda against PornHub that a concerned citizen expressing an informed opinion. Pedophilia has been traveling on any medium the humans have invented thro…

Being sex repulsed and asexual are two very different things. I’m both asexual and write pornography. I just don’t feel sexual attraction. My understanding of sexual attraction is limited but I’ve learned to approximate it in my writing by talking with a lot of other porn writers and using my own roughly equivalent experiences to fill the gaps.

Apparently the person I was replying to is both, but declared themselves as asexual, not as sex repulsed.

They might be confused.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#114

This article gives me the same vibes of that comic strip set in a post apocalyptic wasteland: "But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders" . It reads like a parody of SV culture. Can some woke capitalist please tell me what's so empowering about women who are forced to sell body pics for a living? Should we thank OnlyFans for exploiting the lack of safety net in our society?

"forced" - you can say that about anybody who has a job and isn't independently wealthy.

Also, the point of the article is that it's much better for the performers than traditional porn.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#115
This article is conflating a lack of involvement from tech as some kind of exploitation and complicitness in itself, I think that's a pretty unfair take. The adult industry is wildly exploitive and I don't think choosing not to start a business in that industry should be a mark against someone.

I must also suggest that if you're looking to SV to use tech to bring ethics to adult work, you're barking up the wrong tree. We should be thankful SV hasn't stepped in to "disrupt" the industry, with it's track record of privacy violations and exploitation of user data it's the absolute worst match up for a privacy sensitive industry like adult work. I don't think techs lack of involvement is out of the kindness of it's heart anyway, I think it's a risk avoidance outcome.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#116
Nobody is talking about the users's perspective. If you pay $20 for nude photos, there is something seriously wrong with you. Either you crave some kind of female connection, or have some porn addiction, or something. How can we fairly and properly treat an industry which necessarily relies on abuse, on either the producer side or the consumer side?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#117
post #29

Porn always reminds me of other classical debates that have no end like guns and abortion. The camps of folks in the middle who are cognitively capable of making a difference can't because the outsized voices on either side of them are screaming for either total freedom or total shutdown. They actively fear monger people out of action so no real progress is made. It prevents the best coders and business people from w…

> The camps of folks in the middle who are cognitively capable of making a difference can't because the outsized voices on either side of them are screaming for either total freedom or total shutdown

I really don't think this is accurate analysis of abortion debate in USA. First, I am not even sure what difference should the middle require in your analysis.

What progress on abortion would you expect to happen had advocates stopped talking?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#118

"Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." I think the debate is not really about porn, but people's sense of justice, cheating, deserving things or not etc. Some feel like porn gives unearned satisfaction to young men, a virtual substitute they don't have to work for. The bitter other side will say, no shit, I won't slave away to get screwed over, it's much more straightforward business to co…

> Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power.

What? No. This is idiotic. Who said that?

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#119

"Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power." I think the debate is not really about porn, but people's sense of justice, cheating, deserving things or not etc. Some feel like porn gives unearned satisfaction to young men, a virtual substitute they don't have to work for. The bitter other side will say, no shit, I won't slave away to get screwed over, it's much more straightforward business to co…

> Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power. What? No. This is idiotic. Who said that?

It's a Fight Club (1999) quote.

Re: The Internet Is for Porn

#120
post #87

NB: Writing from a perspective of someone who grew up in a conservative society (Tier 2-3 city in India), and may have a different take. Porn has become one of those buzzwords which triggers an emotional response and is used as a political tool by everyone. ("Taking away our culture and morally corrupting the young generation" is a common refrain heard around me by prominent people even today). I feel that anything w…

Sorry to go off-topic, but I had not come across the concept of Indian city tiers before, and found it interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_Indian_citie...

fwiw, the usual usage of the term (as in the above comment) is not the same as the highly specific government usage that the wiki page described.

The usual usage is just:

Tier 1: Metro cities, the ones you've likely heard of. Mumbai, Bangalore, Delhi etc.

Tier 2: Cities, but much smaller population-wise. These are the cities that are getting newer airports for eg. Most state-capitals would fall here. These count up to around 50 to 100 depending on who you ask. Linked to national highways usually.

Tier 3: Small urban towns. Population is usually a few lakh (1 lakh=100_000) at most. (It more-or-less corresponds to the X/Y/Z usage on the wikipedia article.

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