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Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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I wonder if it would be profitable for Visa/Mastercard/Discover/AmEx to sell a verification service where people can authenticate with a $0.01 authorization or approval amount. Obviously, it wouldn't work with gift cards or other accounts not tied to a real person.

The answer to card fraud is called Strong Customer Authentication and it's a requirement under PSD2. It requires payment service providers to obtain a second factor for authentication. This might be an online banking login and approval, device data capture or an SMS one time code. How is up to the card provider.

I'm not referring to verification for card fraud, I'm saying the card networks could sell it to anyone that wants to verify a human is on the other end. Like an alternative to Captcha.

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Do you think iPhone users care if it’s harder for Facebook and the like to catch fraud?

I'll flip this one back to you in the same spirit. Do you think iPhone users care that Apple is implementing anti-tracking?

They’ll care if Apple tells them to care.

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Fraud prevention? What exactly are you paying the Apple cut for?

I think they mean app-side: determining if a user is a bot or not gets harder when you can't tie that user to the datamine'd indicators of their humanity.

Hackernews seems to manage.

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> shameful that a device that is marketed as the gold standard in privacy It's being marketed this way, that's it. It doesn't mean Apple care about privacy, and they prove every once in a while that they don't respect anyone's privacy at all. They spy on their users as much as anyone else (and overall, they have access to much more information than everybody else except Google). All they want to do is prevent third-p…

They only share data with partners at the direction of users and only to provide specific services, and use for marketing is banned. That privacy policy?

and Chinese iCloud with Chinese government...

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Support Free software instead, and stop begging Apple for permission to control what happens on hardware you own.

I don't want to own hardware and OS I don't like, even if I can control it fully. I'd rather have hardware and OS I like, even if I can't control some aspects of it. Of course a hardware/OS I like and which I control fully would be the holy grail (if the tradeoffs involved, e.g. it being FOSS, and thus underfunded for example, allowed for such a thing). Absent that, somewhere in between there is a nice balance for ea…

This reasoning is just funny. You put your servers on the cloud because you do not want to be bothered with owning and maintaining them and next day you tell people to own and control their devices. Guess what, many have more interesting stuff to do than tracking updates and tweaking configs.

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What specific steps do they take to stop tracking?

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

I don't even see the issue of preventing third-party apps from tracking you addressed on that page, and that is exactly my worry with these kinds of projects: It is not clear to me that they even know what the threat model is. They do not seem to focus at all on the largest issues facing modern phone app ecosystems.

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You missed out the third option, which is ads relevent to the content they’re embedded in. This metaphor worked from 300 years ago through to 15 years ago with no problems.

Or the fourth one, no ads? I might be the minority but ads are wasted on me anyway (apart from the annoyance of seeing them).

I've succumbed a while ago and started using Youtube Premium. Yesterday, when youtube was only working when you were logged out I, seeing an ad was jarring experience.

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Do you think iPhone users care if it’s harder for Facebook and the like to catch fraud?

I'll flip this one back to you in the same spirit. Do you think iPhone users care that Apple is implementing anti-tracking?

Absolutely and it’s a huge reason I will never use Android. I don’t want an advertising company making my phone.

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They only share data with partners at the direction of users and only to provide specific services, and use for marketing is banned. That privacy policy?

and Chinese iCloud with Chinese government...

International iCloud with US and Five eyes government also…

And it's not gonna change: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...

Re: Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone

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Do you think iPhone users care if it’s harder for Facebook and the like to catch fraud?

That's not what the GP is saying. They're saying that only Facebook and the like have the resources to catch fraud, and smaller players won't. Yes, it's harder, but that hardness is almost an irrelevance to Facebook and other FAANG-alikes, whereas it could be much more of a problem for smaller businesses who will struggle to bear the costs both of fraud, and to develop anti-fraud solutions (or pay for anti-fraud serv…

Can you explain how Apple’s anti tracking measures are going to hurt small business and make fraud easier?
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