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Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by magicalhippo »

jayflux wrote: post #67
bamboleo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this means that the poorer countries give the same IP to multiple users. I’ve received a “you’re doing that too much” error after the first google search of the day on my phone in South East Asia. I don’t remember which country

I’ve had that happen in Europe so I don’t think it’s just poor countries doing that.

My buddy living in the country side here in Norway switched ISP and ended up behind carrier-grade NAT.

Speed is so much better with new ISP though so he just set up Wireguard to the VPS server he rents to get "his own" IP.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by gary_0 »

ignoramous wrote: post #94
aritmo wrote: post #70

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What are they doing?

Industry leaders like NordVPN and ExpressVPN may engage in P2P routing (to use residential IPs especially) to unblock services like Netflix and Disney+ [1]. HolaVPN unapologetically does this too [2]. All of this is discounting the new-age dVPNs like Orchid (not quite the Tor replacement that was promised? [3]) and Mysterium [4]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21664692 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…

The Internet detects geoblocking as damage and routes around it?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by JPDeckers »

dstick wrote: post #7
stingraycharles wrote: post #2

I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?

Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…

> I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing.

I own several /22's, and are renting them out through a broker. So far, 1 months rent (easily) covers the yearly RIR costs, so quite a good margin, and I still own them.

So when time comes, I can sell them, but before that, rent keeps coming in. Just need to make sure they are sold before the market value of an IPv4 crashes to zero.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by NetOpWibby »

My8thAccount wrote: post #101
justafriend wrote: post #91

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Out of curiosity, did anything particularly bad happen due to working for a place playing this game? Asking for a friend..

Yea I got hired as a CTO for a startup in my late 20s and thought I had found my dream job. They offered to double my pay as a JR engineer which was a good amount of money for my age and was given 4% ownership that vested over 4 years. Well about 9 months in, the CEO decides the current business plan isn't viable and wanted to setup a competitor to his previous employer. He knew that this could very easily result in…

What an incredible ending. Glad it worked out for you in the end.

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Post by opsunit »

pdkl95 wrote: post #46

$ wget https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json $ grep ip_prefix ip-ranges.json | sed -re 's|.*(/[0-9]+).*|\1|' | sort | uniq -c 4 /11 16 /12 30 /13 82 /14 188 /15 278 /16 70 /17 63 /18 30 /19 47 /20 111 /21 248 /22 204 /23 839 /24 68 /25 235 /26 142 /27 124 /28 50 /29 42 /30 362 /31 370 /32

I have a tool that makes parsing that file easier for some query types: https://github.com/sampointer/digaws

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by nodesocket »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #49

I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

How did you acquire the original 10k addresses and what year was this?

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by J0_k3r »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #49

I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

man I'd have just stuck with it for 20k a month damn, good luck getting a salary that high working for some company.

Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses

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Post by magicalhippo »

mrweasel wrote: post #82
klodolph wrote: post #28

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Well, yes, legacy. But, > …a bunch of lazy network admins in NA and the EU that don't want to learn the new tech… That’s a cheap shot, and it’s not called for. Network admins are paid to make the networks run. Anything else is less important. If your IPv6 network experiences some small problems, well, you’re going to hold on to IPv4 because small network problems can mean big inefficiencies or lost sales. Just a few…

Yeah, it's not the network admins, they want IPv6 too. If at all possible our network admins want IPv6 only networks, the sad fact is that it's not possible in most cases. We had to return stacks of Cisco equipment, because despite being brand new it had no IPv6 support. We should have checked of cause, but we just didn't imagine that you could buy IPv4 only equipment in 2020. Software is even worse, we have had soft…

> Software is even worse

Indeed. Even stuff like pfSense has only rudimentary IPv6 support.

And I guess software support is poor because they're still figuring out how to actually deploy IPv6, churning out new RFC's[1].

[1]: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-addressing... (random example)

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Post by arpa »

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #97
TechBro8615 wrote: post #49

I used to own 10k IP addresses that I sold as proxy servers to internet marketers. I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. I had no idea what I was doing and eventually shut down the company, but damn, I wish I at least kept control of those things. If you want to see some sketchy shit, look deeply into what the VPN companies are doing.

> I made about $20k a month and it paid my bills through college. Lord man, what kind of bills were these?

College bills i would guess
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