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Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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Every time Google is shutting down a product there are the same kind of reactions like “I will not trust google running anything more than a year”, “killedbygoogle.com”. I’m wondering, have you ever heard about this product? I for one have no clue what this is. How many more products does google have that you never heard about and that are not shut down?

Yes, but what about the people who did? Here's the thing, Google is a big company. When a big company offers a service or product you expect a long shelf life so you can justify the time/money investment to use it. If you stumble across an open source or just some other random project by a single dev, you have an instinctive expectation that the project could die at any time. Thus, you invest your effort accordingly…

> Google has the focus of a 12 year adhd kid who just ate a whole birthday cake, unless when it comes to data collection.

A decade ago I was an intern at Google. One of my mentors said something that has stuck with me: "Google found a hose that money pours out of and it's name is online advertising. All we do now is desperately try to find another hose."

Google's strategy for a long time was: Hire every clever person you can; give them some creative freedom; see if any of them come up with a trillion dollar idea.

Only now they've 'grown up'. 20% time is dead. There is no second hose. They've mostly given up on the idea of a clever person finding a new money-hose. They just focus on the one they have now.

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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For those that aren't aware, Poly was introduced at a Google IO, alongside Sceneform and Filament, frameworks for 3D development on Android with focus on AR/VR, with managed and native APIs.

Their development is on maintenance mode for months now, and even the Android team is using Unity or pure C++ frameworks, instead of Java, or now Kotlin first APIs.

Just waiting for them to lose interest on Android, ChromeOS or even Chrome!

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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I'm still missing Google+, which was a really great and useful place before they thought they had to mimic Facebook with the post-centric design with no regards to comments. The original design of Google+ was made me fall in love with it. Also the people, complete different spirit from the Facebook garbage.

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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Does anyone know if the Internet Archive has any plans to scrape the content? Poly is not only a critical component of several VR apps I use, it's a repository of some incredible Tilt Brush artwork and part of the history of modern VR. I'm dreading the imminent upcoming news about Tilt Brush itself. And Google Earth VR which is a true cultural treasure. And just finally - in case it isn't clear - fuck Google.

Do you mean the Internet Archive? Jason Scott @textfiles retweeted the announcement, so they are at least aware of it.

He's also a member of Archive Team (not affiliated with IA, but often upload scrapes there when they are done).

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but what about the people who did? Here's the thing, Google is a big company. When a big company offers a service or product you expect a long shelf life so you can justify the time/money investment to use it. If you stumble across an open source or just some other random project by a single dev, you have an instinctive expectation that the project could die at any time. Thus, you invest your effort accordingly…

> Google has the focus of a 12 year adhd kid who just ate a whole birthday cake, unless when it comes to data collection. A decade ago I was an intern at Google. One of my mentors said something that has stuck with me: "Google found a hose that money pours out of and it's name is online advertising. All we do now is desperately try to find another hose." Google's strategy for a long time was: Hire every clever person…

Google's revenue is more diversified today than it's ever been. This is a facile take.

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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>We appreciate you trusting us to host your assets and provide a space where they can shine. Well, I guess that was a mistake for whoever did. That almost reads like a hint of self awareness for their continued killing of things they release.

You act like there's zero value to having someone else host your assets FOR A WHILE.

There is value. Yes, there's also cost to having to re-host your assets somewhere else.

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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post #28

Every time Google is shutting down a product there are the same kind of reactions like “I will not trust google running anything more than a year”, “killedbygoogle.com”. I’m wondering, have you ever heard about this product? I for one have no clue what this is. How many more products does google have that you never heard about and that are not shut down?

Counterpoint: since Google has firmly established a reputation for killing their own products, people who would otherwise find value in certain Google products (beyond search ads gmail and android) avoid them and never hear about them to begin with. I wonder if they are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy: google launches a product, people avoid it assuming it’ll get killed off, google says the user metrics don’t jus…

Firebase is safe...right?

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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post #28

Every time Google is shutting down a product there are the same kind of reactions like “I will not trust google running anything more than a year”, “killedbygoogle.com”. I’m wondering, have you ever heard about this product? I for one have no clue what this is. How many more products does google have that you never heard about and that are not shut down?

Looking at the frequency of the art uploaded and the effort in it I bet the artists and those who used that platform would indeed care about it being killed by Google.

Re: Google Poly is shutting down

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Google is an organization run by engineers. They have no concept of marketing, or product placement or community engagement. They build for an audience of engineers, and if a wider cross-section of the population embraces a product that is purely by happenstance rather than design. As an enterprise they appear to have AD/HD, these products are launched and supported for awhile and then dropped. It is baked into the c…

Innovation is over here, and Stagnation is over there.

You can't expect them to a) Innovate, and b) Pay forever for something that's not succeeding.

You may draw the line differently, but in this specific instance, I think you're being unfair.

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