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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Can apple not use security certificates to verify publishers ? why does it need to go to their servers ?

The URL mentioned in sibling comments suggests this has to do with certificate revocation (OCSP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Certificate_Status_Prot...

I agree that breaking system availability when an OCSP server isn't available is user-hostile and unnecessary.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#114

This is horrible. How can launching apps be depending on a cloud service being available...

> How can launching apps be depending on a cloud service being available... It's not, per se. The apps will launch if you block the specific subdomain, or turn off internet. The problem is if the computer thinks it can connect and keeps trying.

Ah yes - the “poor X is worse than no X”-problem.

It’s a huge problem on Windows where Explorer.exe still blocks the UI thread while it checks SMB shares if it thinks it can connect to them, but it skips them if it knows the computer is disconnected from a network. So using a Windows computer on a very spotty WLAN is actually more painful than being disconnected due to all the timeouts and dropped packets. Office Outlook is another main offender. I have a Windows Firewall rule just for Outlook.exe when I know it’s going to lock-up a lot.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Pathetic. Apps don't need to have internet connection until they actually do.

I bought the new mac, but I'm planning to dwell in the terminal and browser. My exposure to Apple's closed garden is very limited but I dread the day when it's forced upon me. Then I would need to switch hardware despite Apple's form factor being my ideal type (light and battery life+++).

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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My MacBook is basically unusable right now. This appears to be the reason. Is there any way to fix it without installing little snitch? Edit: working as usual now, moments after i wrote this. But seriously Apple, how can you allow this to happen? Your services hanging should _never_ prevent my device from running things locally. This is seriously making me reconsider my next computer purchase.

System76 is pretty great and they have amazing customer support. Plus between ProtonDB / Lutris you can run pretty much anything you want that needed Windows before.

https://system76.com/laptops

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#118

Update to the original tweet: https://twitter.com/michaelvillar/status/1327004693361549312... > A better fix to this is: > - Turn off Wifi (to be usable) > - Add "0.0.0.0 http://ocsp.apple.com " to `/etc/hosts` > - Turn on Wifi > This is temporary, don't forget to remove it tomorrow.

Is there a reason I shouldn't leave this address in a blackhole?

It depends if you care about this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatekeeper_(macOS)

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started panicking mildly thinking my drive was failing or something. And just before this, I finally managed to fix Spotlight pegging one core at 100% constantly. Next thing, I reboot into a laggy system. macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... it's basically an abusive relationship at this point.

yeah, I had spotlight thrashing my disk too. Odd.

How interesting...Apple, couldn't, be doing a pied piper, right?

/s obviously.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#120
Pathetic. Apps don't need to have internet connection until they actually do.

I bought the new mac, but I'm planning to dwell in the terminal and browser. My exposure to Apple's closed garden is very limited but I dread the day when it's forced upon me. Then I would need to switch hardware despite Apple's form factor being my ideal type (light and battery life+++).

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